Talk:Ambition (Wale album)

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Bait on iTunes deluxe version

The promotional single, Bait, is a bonus track on the iTunes deluxe version of the album. http://itunes.apple.com/us/preorder/ambition-deluxe-version/id473711954 Can someone add this in? The boss 1904 (talk) 13:04, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Done.
—Michael Jester (talk) 16:01, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:14, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

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Ambition (Wale album) → Ambition – Based on the number of incoming links, this article has a good case for being the primary target of Ambition, and moving it will get Ambition off the "Malplaced disambiguation pages" list. Move over redirect. Support as nominator. Tevildo (talk) 22:30, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.

• Oppose on making Ambition (Wale album) the primary topic of "ambition". Yes, incoming links may be used, but should not be the only factor to determine primary topic, when you have other considerations such as long-term significance, or usage. Highly doubtful that Wale's album is highly likely -- much more likely than any other topic, and more likely than all the other topics combined -- to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term -- especially when you have a long-term significant word such as "ambition". Furthermore, the incoming links figure seems to be heavily skewed because of the Focused (song) redirect and the Template:Wale navbox, among others. Zzyzx11 (talk) 03:47, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose – the usual rabid enthusiasm to apply PRIMARYTOPIC where it doesn't belong. "Ambition" is ambiguous; certainly most users will not expect this word to take them to a record album. Dicklyon (talk) 04:11, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
• Strong oppose WP:RECENTISM. Wikipedia is not the whole world, we should stop navel-gazing to prove what is primary. 70.49.124.225 (talk) 04:45, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose per above. Nikthestoned 08:50, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

• Neutral (as nominator). See below. Tevildo (talk) 12:18, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

• Oppose. The primary topic of "ambition" would probably be the concept of ambition, although it looks like we don't have an article on the concept now that the dicdef has been merged with the disambiguation page. The disambiguation page should be moved to Ambition. Jafeluv (talk) 10:42, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Discussion

Any additional comments:

The nominator merged Ambition (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) to Ambition (disambiguation) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and is now talking about a malplaced dab page. It seems to me that the nominator should have merged it the other way, if the nominator knows about malplacement of dab pages. 70.49.124.225 (talk) 04:47, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, he was clearly after that title for the new Wale album. Bad idea. It should be fixed as part of the close here. Dicklyon (talk) 05:44, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

(I think this discussion should be continued somewhere more appropriate - Talk:Ambition, perhaps?) My main concern was to get rid of the non-article that was previously at Ambition. When I last did that sort of thing, there was a clear rule that dab pages should have (disambiguation) in the title, and it was only when I was cleaning up after the merge that I discovered this has now changed, and we have the "malplaced dab pages" list. If there is no primary meaning for "Ambition", then the dab page should be at Ambition. However, I would still observe that, of the articles we have that are called "Ambition", this article has the most incoming links. If that's not enough to make it the primary topic (which it seems is the case), then we shouldn't move it. Tevildo (talk) 12:18, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.