Talk:Alison MacCallum

Latest comment: 10 years ago by BDD in topic Requested move

McCallum vs MacCallum edit

I believe that if anything, the article spelling Alison's name "McCallum" should be the one merged into the one spelled "MacCallum". While it is true that record labels spelled her name both ways, the spelling on her 2 biggest hits "Superman" & "Excuse Me", + on her second album is 'MacCallum'. Furthermore this is the spelling Alison herself uses on her email correspondence though I hope you'll take my word for that as I am not at liberty to divilge this personal information. Furthermore I feel that there are discrepencies in the "McCallum" article. Firstly if the articles are to be merged, then her other singles need not be dismissed as flops as all bar Alison's very last 2 enjoyed success in the various Australian state charts (or at least notoriety & much TV exposure in the case of It's Time) There is also no mention of Alison's groundbreaking work as a solo girl singer singing straight rock music when all the other succesful girls sang pop. Nor is their any mention of the fact that she was the first Australian female singer to have an album make the album charts. Alison led the way in doing this & should be acknowledged as such.

The other thing I found galling was to see see 2 of Australia's most respected vocalists Bobbi Marchini & Janice Slater, referred to as "fellow session vocalists". Janice was one of the most familiar faces on Australia's version of Bandstand in latter half of the 1960's, released several singles & went on to carve an international reputation as a member of "Esperanto Rock Orchestra". Bobbi Marchini gained much attention for her rock vocals as one of the 2 vocalists (alongside Jon English) in the band Duck, which featured many of Australia's best musos of the era. This lead to her being signed to one of Australia's most successful independent labels "Albert Productions" & releasing several solo singles. Both ladies were also called on to provide vocals on the solo album by John Robinson (ex- Blackfeather/Duck) as well as lead vocals on 2 prominent rock musical projects of the era, "Ned Kelly" & Grass: A Rock Musical" Sure both ladies, along with Alison, did session work as backing singers but to dismiss them as merely 'session singers' does them & their careers an extreme disservice.

Regards

Mike Robbins —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.208.102.184 (talk) 01:30, August 20, 2007 (UTC)

I believe that this article should be merged from <<< the other article on this singer in which her surname is spelt MacCallum. McCallum is the spelling of her surname that was shown on the majority of her recordings and on various other contemporaneous primary sources shown on the links page attached to that article. For evidence of the way it was spelt on her records go to the website page: http://www.freewebs.com/alisonmccallum/whatsinaname.htm which has a selection of screen shots of the record labels and LP covers, covering the major proportion her solo career from 1972 to 1979.

Terry Stacey 20/06/07

I'm leaning towards MacCallum. Notwithstanding that her material was also released as McCallum, I'm going with John Tait (2010) where he uses MacCallum in his text until he quotes Napier-Bell: "While making the album with Alison McCallum [sic], I'd gone" Here Tait shows that Napier-Bell has got her last name wrong. See current ref[13].shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 02:01, 5 September 2013 (UTC)Reply
Furthermore: use APRA Works Search Engine, enter Performer: Alison MacCallum. Then 'Search again' and enter Performer: Alison McCallum. The latter form is diverted to the former signifying MacCallum is the correct spelling. Likewise, Allison McCallum and Allison MacCallum also divert to Alison MacCallumshaidar cuebiyar (talk) 02:18, 5 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

Requested move edit

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 23:25, 7 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Alison McCallumAlison MacCallum – See discussion above re:alternative last names. The situation is not entirely clear cut. In terms of history consider two articles created back on 1 February 2007:

  1. Alison McCallum created by User:Terry Stacey at 21:09.
  2. Alison MacCallum created by User:Moichael at 23:14.

For comparison consider the following searches:

  1. Google Books for "Alison McCallum" Australian singer has 18 hits.
  2. Google Books for "Alison MacCallum" Australian singer has 3 hits.
  3. Google News has no result for either.
  4. Trove Search for "Alison McCallum"
  5. Trove Search for "Alison MacCallum"

Back in September last year I provided a number of edits and substantially added/improved this article. During my work I came to the conclusion that MacCallum had the greater weight of evidence from reliable sources. The article currently refers to both spellings in the Lead and has hidden notes directing interested editors to this talkpage.

I have given two strands of my thinking above and have waited five months for any contrary discussion to the preference of MacCallum over McCallum. Consequently, I request that the article be moved to Alison MacCallum, which is currently a re-direct to here. shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 10:00, 31 January 2014 (UTC)Reply

Further evidence to support the move:
  1. "Biographical cuttings on Alison MacCallum, singer, containing one or more cuttings from newspapers or journals" housed at the National Library of Australia. I can't find a similar collection for "Alison McCallum".shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 05:46, 1 February 2014 (UTC)Reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.