Talk:Alice Guo

Latest comment: 5 hours ago by Borgenland in topic Requested move 24 May 2024

Semi-protected edit request on 12 May 2024 edit

She is a mayor in Philippines with Chinese ethnicity and questionable origins, documents and records that she herself don't have any idea about, and an owner of a company with a fugitive just right behind the municipality. Are the filipino people just thinking too much? 158.62.80.166 (talk) 15:55, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 15:59, 12 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 13 May 2024 edit

is a Chinese not a Filipino 14.100.17.104 (talk) 15:35, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Myrealnamm-alt (talk) 15:43, 13 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Requested move 24 May 2024 edit

Alice Guo2023–2024 Bamban raidsAlice Guo would have been not notable if she was not subject to a Senate inquiry over suspicions she is a planted Chinese asset. She only meets WP:GNG over one event (See WP:BIO1E). It is more like an aftermath of the 2023–2024 Bamban raids. Alternatively the article could be renamed to Bamban mayor POGO controversy or any event-oriented title. Like 2019 Australian Parliament infiltration plot is not named Nick Zhao Bo and Brian Chen Hariboneagle927 (talk) 11:14, 24 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

  • Oppose. The coverage of the raids would not have gained that much traction if an alleged spy, posing as a mayor who seemingly had amnesia and whose citizenship is questionable, hadn't shown up. The level of threat to the national security of the Philippines brought by this person is unprecedented. Her alleged ties with transnational criminals extend beyond the raids in Bamban. HueMan1 (talk) 17:37, 24 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oppose, the media coverage on her dubious biography (from her alleged childhood days in Bamban to being a mayor even if she is an unknown individual for much of the citizens of Bamban) warrants the article's retention as a biographical article. Alternatively, the section at the Philippine Offshore Gaming Operator covering the Bamban raids should be split into a standalone article. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 07:53, 25 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oppose The Alice Guo affair has gotten a life of her own which transcends her involvement in POGOs, particularly now that there are suspicions regarding her origin that are now threatening to drag multiple political institutions in the country into serious scrutiny. Borgenland (talk) 09:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oppose for same reasons above. Ganmatthew (talkcontribs) 15:43, 26 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
(Partial) Oppose Guo has become a rather significant (and arguably much bigger) topic for entirely different reasons than just the criminal activities of the Hongsheng firm. Although I agree our coverage of her would be better served under a different article format rather than a WP:BLP (provided again, that it's a separate coverage from the Bamban raids). But I struggle to think of an appropriate title (Bamban mayor POGO controversy doesn't quite cut it, as it still implies that the issue only involves her links to the POGOs). Better where it is for now, I guess, until we get more details from the investigation. -- OBSIDIANSOUL 12:44, 25 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Urgent Rename - Obsidian Soul's position on this matter, as stated above, matches my own. So I will simply second it. But let me add that we need to take action quickly; the article has no business being a BLP.- Chieharumachi (talk) 04:43, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Maybe something generic like 2024 Alice Guo controversy or 2024 Alice Guo identity controversy?-- OBSIDIANSOUL 05:12, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oh, that's a good next direction. But I'd go further and suggest 2024 Bamban mayor identity controversy. I'm okay with Alice Guo and 2024 Alice Guo identity controversy being redirects, unless something in BLP policy explicitly says otherwise. - Chieharumachi (talk) 09:03, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
None of those red links are plausible search items. The current article title more than suffices. Howard the Duck (talk) 12:53, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Indeed they are too clunky. Borgenland (talk) 12:55, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose (1) "2023–2024 Bamban raids" is a completely different topic, (2) Alice Guo has enough information and notability for Wikipedia to warrant having an article on her, we don't need to lump her in with the Bamban raids, because we don't know if all the controversy surrounding her is just POGO stuff or if it goes much deeper. A diehard editor (talk | edits) 12:29, 26 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
  • Oppose - Arconning (talk | edits) 12:26, 27 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Note: WikiProject Biography, WikiProject Politics, and Tambayan Philippines have been notified of this discussion. HueMan1 (talk) 10:34, 26 May 2024 (UTC)Reply