Talk:Alexander Glazunov

Latest comment: 1 year ago by Tqger in topic Creative Crisis?

Glazunov copyright edit

Was somewhat concerned because his death date was 1936 but according to the Russian copyright law of '93 copyrights on publications of works (especially those during his lifetime - I'm thinking of the reductions of his 5th and 8th symphony and a few others, PDFs of many of which are online) expired last year at latest, if I understand this. Just to note that down. Schissel | Sound the Note! 23:33, 14 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

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Family life edit

There's next to nothing that I can find about his family life. Apparently he married "late" to a woman named Elena and his daughter was adopted. The daughter was a pianist, who appeared as "Yelena Glazunova", and is also referred to as "Yelena Gunther-Glazunova", and she apparently had the task of watching him for signs of alcoholism. His late marriage is also referred to as "so unexpected". I also know that Sergei Tarnowsky married his "step-daughter". There's only mention of one child, so I assume the "adopted daughter" and the "step-daughter" are one and the same person. Not sure about the "Gunther" part of her name: she may have been born with the surname Gunther (from her mother's first marriage, perhaps?). Or, that may have been the name she acquired by marriage after she and Tarnowsky divorced (which is again an assumption based on the fact that Tarnowsky later married one of his own students, a certain Maxine Matlavish). Why was Glazunov's marriage "so unexpected"? Was he a "confirmed bachelor" up till then? Are there any recordings of Yelena (Gunther-)Glazunova's playing? Was she at all notable other than as the composer's daughter? Does anyone have these and other family life details? -- JackofOz (talk) 21:53, 12 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

I've now discovered a reference to his "son-in-law Herbert Guenther" (liner notes to the Ruggiero Ricci VOX recording of the Violin Concerto). That seems to mean that his daughter married Herbert Guenther after Tarnowsky had left the scene. -- JackofOz (talk) 00:30, 13 March 2009 (UTC)Reply
And here are more references to Herbert Gunther – [1], [2]. I can’t open the latter cite, and my German is almost non-existent anyway, but I can glean a connection. His dates are apparently 1906-1978. -- JackofOz (talk) 00:36, 13 March 2009 (UTC)Reply
I think I've sorted it out now. The Elena I linked to above was his mother. He married an Olga Nikolayevna Gavrilova, who had a daughter named Elena (the pianist). I've added a new section "Married life". He was 64 when he married (and Olga was 54). I guess that late starting age explains why people were so surprised that he married at all. -- JackofOz (talk) 01:24, 25 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

The following quotation, from Thomas Preston: Before the Curtain, London, John Murray, 1950, may perhaps be of some interest here. Describing a visit he made to Glazunov's home in or around November 1923, Preston writes: "About eight o'clock Madame Gavrilov and her daughter, who had kept the house of the great musician for many years, came in from a concert, and began to prepare the evening meal" (p. 192, my italics). Preston, a British diplomat, claims to have known Glazunov well: "From this day onwards, for the many years that I was to spend in Soviet Russia, Alexander Constantinovitch became my dearest friend and hardly a week passed without our meeting, either at our respective houses, or at some concert or musical entertainment" (pp. 191 - 192). Also: "I kept up quite a lively correspondence with him until his death and greatly prize his letters" (p. 196). --Dalkeith46 (talk) 14:58, 15 January 2012 (UTC)Reply

Composer project review edit

I've reviewed this article as part of the Composers project review of its B-class articles. This is a fine article; I found only relatively small things to complain about. My full review is on the comments page; questions and comments should be left here or on my talk page. Magic♪piano 16:44, 28 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

Glazunov and cosmopolitanism edit

I added citation request, because the term cosmopolitanism hardly is a correct one for description of Alexander Glazunov music style. M.D.Calvocoressi quotes Alexander Ossovsky, who wrote about Glazunov's role in reconcialiation between Russian and Western music. See M.D.Calvocoressi, Gerald Abraham, Masters of Russian Music, Tudor Publishing Co., New York, 1944, pages 434, 435. Also in my view the Introductory section needs some attention. Semimartingale (talk) 20:16, 25 September 2011 (UTC)Reply

Key of the 2nd Piano Concerto, Op. 100 edit

The first paragraph of the "Conservatory" section refers to the 2nd Piano Concerto being in B minor. Later, in the paragraph headed "Married Life", the same concerto is referred to as being in B major (as is also the case in the Wikipedia page listing Glazunov's compositions). The sleeve notes to the Naxos CD [8.553928] of Oxana Yablonskaya's recording of the concerto with the Moscow Symphony Orchestra refer to the key as "B/E major", indicating some ambiguity of the key (indeed, the sleeve notes differ somewhat between the English, French, German and Spanish versions provided!). However we resolve the matter, we should be consistent!

86.13.147.49 (talk) 11:42, 18 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Just checked the score at the International Music Score Library Project site. It begins in B major and ends in E major. Kostaki mou (talk) 15:09, 5 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Pronunciation edit

Glazunov's name is usually accented on the first syllable by radio announcers. I have been told that it should actually be accented on the second. Which is correct? Kostaki mou (talk) 22:27, 5 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

The footnote indicates that it should actually be accented on the last syllable! Kostaki mou (talk) 03:11, 30 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

Assessment comment edit

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;Composers Project Assessment of Alexander Glazunov: 2024-05-4

This is an assessment of article Alexander Glazunov by a member of the Composers project, according to its assessment criteria. This review was done by Magicpiano.

If an article is well-cited, the reviewer is assuming that the article reflects reasonably current scholarship, and deficiencies in the historical record that are documented in a particular area will be appropriately scored. If insufficient inline citations are present, the reviewer will assume that deficiencies in that area may be cured, and that area may be scored down.

Adherence to overall Wikipedia standards (WP:MOS, WP:WIAGA, WP:WIAFA) are the reviewer's opinion, and are not a substitute for the Wikipedia's processes for awarding Good Article or Featured Article status.

Origins/family background/studies

Does the article reflect what is known about the composer's background and childhood? If s/he received musical training as a child, who from, is the experience and nature of the early teachers' influences described?

  •   ok
Early career

Does the article indicate when s/he started composing, discuss early style, success/failure? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed?

  •   ok
Mature career

Does the article discuss his/her adult life and composition history? Are other pedagogic and personal influences from this time on his/her music discussed?

  •   ok
List(s) of works

Are lists of the composer's works in WP, linked from this article? If there are special catalogs (e.g. Köchel for Mozart, Hoboken for Haydn), are they used? If the composer has written more than 20-30 works, any exhaustive listing should be placed in a separate article.

  •   ok
Critical appreciation

Does the article discuss his/her style, reception by critics and the public (both during his/her life, and over time)?

  •   ok
Illustrations and sound clips

Does the article contain images of its subject, birthplace, gravesite or other memorials, important residences, manuscript pages, museums, etc? Does it contain samples of the composer's work (as composer and/or performer, if appropriate)? (Note that since many 20th-century works are copyrighted, it may not be possible to acquire more than brief fair use samples of those works, but efforts should be made to do so.) If an article is of high enough quality, do its images and media comply with image use policy and non-free content policy? (Adherence to these is needed for Good Article or Featured Article consideration, and is apparently a common reason for nominations being quick-failed.)

  •   ok; might benefit from more images, though
References, sources and bibliography

Does the article contain a suitable number of references? Does it contain sufficient inline citations? (For an article to pass Good Article nomination, every paragraph possibly excepting those in the lead, and every direct quotation, should have at least one footnote.) If appropriate, does it include Further Reading or Bibliography beyond the cited references?

  •   Article is well-referenced; extensive (nearly complete) inline cites
Structure and compliance with WP:MOS

Does the article comply with Wikipedia style and layout guidelines, especially WP:MOS, WP:LEAD, WP:LAYOUT, and possibly WP:SIZE? (Article length is not generally significant, although Featured Articles Candidates may be questioned for excessive length.)

  •   Mostly minor inconsistencies.
Things that may be necessary to pass a Good Article review
  • Article requires more inline citations (WP:CITE)
  • Article text formatting needs work (e.g. quotation methods, punctuation, inconsistent styles)
Summary

This is well-written article, clearly on its way to formal review. Most of the flaws I note are relatively minor, and should be easily fixable. There are inconsistent footnote placements (sometimes before punctuation, sometimes after). Belyayev's name is spelled two different ways. There are other things that are more in the nature of grammar "oopses" that a fresh-eyed copyedit might fix.

The article might benefit from a few more images, and it would be nice if there were sound clips of some of his better-known works.

Article is B-class; nearing readiness for GA/FA/A review. Magic♪piano 16:42, 28 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

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Creative Crisis? edit

What was his 'creative crisis' of 1890-91? Please expand and explain. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:3010:700:A:DD4:9D31:1FD3 (talk) 23:44, 8 June 2022 (UTC)Reply

perhaps "his creative crisis in which he wrote little" or some such derivative Tqger (talk) 05:55, 1 August 2022 (UTC)Reply