Talk:Alcohol inhalation

Nebulizer

Isn't this just a nebulizer hooked up to an oxygen concentrator?

Are their any studies done on vaporized alcohol? It takes 20 mins to inhale a single shot from this machine, how could it get you "more drunk" then simply drinking the shot? Is less alcohol lost in this process? Is there any proof this machine works at all?

The way I read it, it takes 20 minutes to get an effect equivalent to drinking a single shot--you're not actually inhaling that quantity. You get "more drunk" because the alcohol is absorbed into the bloodstream faster, resulting in a higher peak and lower duration of effect.71.171.75.62 (talk) 02:46, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

The science of getting wasted quickly seems sound -- there are plenty of blood vessels in the lungs to facilitate quick EtOH pickup, and since you can't throw up the alcohol, you're going to absorb it longer than your stomach would normally allow. But I fail to see how it removes the hangover possibility. You're still putting ethanol in the blood, which the liver converts to acetaldehyde, and you still have a hangover. Because you aren't irritating the linings of your gut, you might not have as much nausea, but you're still going to be hit with the rest of the hangover.

I've never had a hangover, period. This may be because I drink about as much water as I do alcohol when I go out drinking. It is my understanding that a hangover can be prevented simply by staying hydrated and drinking alcohol in moderation. -- Twavith, Unregistered 05:39, 2 March 2008 (EST)

Also, am I the only one who thinks that oxygenated ethanol just sounds like a fire hazard waiting to happen? --Mdwyer 03:52, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Arnt nebulisers pretty wastefull, the amount of alcohol lost on the way to your lungs would be pretty high. 87.194.30.174 (talk) 01:19, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

awol article here; but,... cocaine?

We do need a cocaine cola beverage {cocaine cola beverage} article.

Thank You.

hopiakuta 17:50, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Is this really illegal?

It says its been banned in 21 states on this article. Source? On their website it says it's legal (for ages 21+): http://www.awolmachine.com/page-4.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.2.234.66 (talk) 20:16, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

"Q. Is It Legal? The two components of AWOL (extra oxygen and alcohol) are legal, so yes it is. The single user unit uses only compressed air and alcohol."

By this logic, home distillation would be legal. <a href="http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=173733&src=110">This article</a> talks about Kentucky, Tennessee and California specifically, but says that at least 21 states have outlawed AWOL. -Athaler (talk) 03:48, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Article title

The article was originally titled "Alcohol without liquid", which was based on the name of the original AWOL device. During the course of the AfD discussion it was changed to Alcohol inhalation. Shortly thereafter it was changed again, to "Inhalation of alcohol vapor". I personally thought "Alcohol inhalation" was a better title and I would like to see it changed back to that. Comments? --MelanieN (talk) 18:15, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

User:Northamerica1000 stated at the AfD that they prefer Alcohol inhalation. [1] --MelanieN (talk) 21:11, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

They both seem about the same to me. Either is better than AWOL. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 21:17, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I prefer Alcohol inhalation for the title, although Alcohol vapor inhalation would also suffice. Cheers, Northamerica1000^(talk) 22:17, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

OK, moved back. Thanks everyone for improving the article; a great ad-hoc cooperation. In the end, I'd also like to thank Ringbang for nominating it at the AfD, otherwise it would go unnoticed. No such user (talk) 12:55, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Period of FUD

After actually trying it (though I seem to be late for the popularity and backlash wave) it's really easy to see how the few sources talked about this are grossly over-dramatic.

I bought the "Vape Shot", a handheld air pump that you shove in the top of a 2-liter bottle, in which you put a small amount of your chosen liquor - but it sure better be strong! Why? Because what they don't tell you is a whole breath-full of vapor is really weak. This must be the big realization people have before ditching it, propelling it into obscurity - in fact I've never been successfully able to feel anything from vaping before giving up. The idea that it's "dangerous" actually gives it way too much credit.

• The vapor is a mixture of water vapor and ethanol vapor, but mostly water vapor.
• The Vape-Shot website claims the 2L bottle full of vapor inhaled is as much alcohol as about 1/60th of a shot. No wonder I never got anywhere - if I pumped it up every minute it'd take an entire hour to consume a single shot!
• Someone here said it would take "20 minutes to consume 1 shot". With the above in mind, that would be far too quick, even though that's already unimpressive.
• People who have gotten buzzed from it always describe it as more of a "head high" than liquid alcohol - it's a more calming, less energizing sensation. This is hardly something that gets you "wild" drunk, let alone anywhere near overdose.
• But that's not a very scientific take, so let's look at the science! Oh wait, none of the linked articles have substantial science - they say things that "may" be harmful, but even those aren't backed up with so much as a possible scientific explanation for some reason.
• It's fallacious and misleading to bring up the instinct to vomit from drinking too much as some sort of lost benefit. Vomiting does nothing about the alcohol already in your bloodstream - it just gets rid of any additional alcohol in the stomach queued up to go in the bloodstream. In both cases, you have no way to actually rid the blood of alcohol but to wait it out.
• That said, vaping would be far less misleading to the consumer about its effects - the vapor you feel right away, but drinks of course take a while before you realize how drunk you've lined yourself up to be. This absolutely cancels out any alleged risks of the "faster uptake" of vaping alcohol - you immediately know what you've done.

The idea that this would ever be illegal somewhere just goes to show the FUD worked. But where's the science?

Speaking of which, I'd love for this article to show some science on the subject of turning alcohol into vapor - the interesting part, not just stuff about health risks. Some interesting things to ask/answer:

• Is it more effective to use a harder or softer bottle?
• At what point does pumping more have diminishing returns?
• What are the trade-offs of using a smaller or larger bottle?
• How can one reliably tell when the liquor at the bottom has been mostly exhausted of alcohol, and should be discarded in favor of fresh liquor so you're not just vaping water?
• What's the ideal amount of alcohol to put in the bottle? Or is it more about surface area than volume?

Paradox (talk) 07:09, 21 July 2018 (UTC)