Talk:Ain't That Just Like a Woman (They'll Do It Every Time)

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The opening riff is of particular interest because it appears to be exactly the same riff Chuck Berry made famous a decade later as the opening to Johny B Goode.

This page used to name the guitarist, any idea why it's been removed?--Deke42 (talk) 21:57, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

I don't see that the guitarist was ever named. Only the horns play the intro figure in the original. Do you have a WP:RELIABLE SOURCE? —Ojorojo (talk) 13:16, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

My dad had, maybe still has, the record. The original had the guitar intro, a rerecording had the brass section, dad had/has that as well, on an LP. Whether I can find either of them is another thing entirely unfortunately.Deke42 (talk) 22:26, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

The guitar intro (and its later recycling by Chuck Berry in Johnny B. Goode) is mentioned by SongFacts here. JezGrove (talk) 09:57, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

This article definitely needs expansion, but with reliable sources. Songfacts is on the list of unreliable sources, because its content is user generated. Other WP articles identify Carl Hogan as the guitarist who Berry copied. Maybe check their refs and if they're legit, add them to this article. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:05, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Ojoroho. The SongFacts article talks about "The journalists who work for the site" and doesn't mention that it is user-generated, and I hadn't realised. This article from The New York Times mentions that Johnny B. Goode's "stinging introduction" was "pinched from [...] Louis Jordan's Ain't That Just Like a Woman". JezGrove (talk) 21:15, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

It's not clear how much fact-checking goes into SF's oversight of user's comments (the bit about the guitar intro shows "Suggestion credit: Bertrand - Paris, France"). Anyway, long established sources like the NYT are a better choice, so I'd say go for it. My access is limited – does the article mention Hogan? Including him would be nice if there's a reliable source. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:17, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Capitalization in title

One editor has pointed out that "Like" should be lower case: "Ain't That Just like a Woman (They'll Do It Every Time)" Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Capital letters#Composition Titles section. Comments? —Ojorojo (talk) 20:42, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Why?--Deke42 (talk) 21:59, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

To comply with WP:Manual of Style/Capital letters#Composition titles, See WP:ALBUMCAPS. —Ojorojo (talk) 13:16, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, I read that, but why? It's just a page of gibberish to me. Everyone knows that you capitalise every word of a song title, I don't know why, it makes no sense to me and personally I don't bother with it, but the rest of the world does it, why does Wikipedia need to follow some really stupid rules that no one pays any attention to in the real world? I should add that I am neurologically diverse, which sounds so much better than "A bit thick", but sometimes it does assist me in cutting through the crap, which is what I sense is happening here.--92.11.46.94 (talk) 13:00, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps your concerns would be better addressed on that talk page. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:18, 24 April 2016 (UTC)