Talk:After Midnight (Nat King Cole album)

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Initial release - 10 tracks or 12 tracks?

I have been trying to verify some of the details of the release of the Capitol Records album After Midnight by Nat King Cole and his trio. Specifically I can't (yet) seem to be able to confirm the exact format of the very first release of this album. Based on (only) internet searches, there seems to be evidence that at least one version of the album was released with only 10 tracks. Other sources indicate the (initial?) release contained the more familiar 12 tracks. [and yes, I understand 5 additional tracks were added to later re-issues in the 1980s but it appears that the original release and early re-issues from the 1950s / 1960s never contained more than 12 tracks.]

According to information in the "Goldmine jazz album price guide" by Tim Keely, there are 3 separate releases of the album After Midnight with the 'matrix number' designation W 782 (ref: google books)

• W 782 (M) After Midnight 1956 - "turquiose label"
• W 782 (M) After Midnight 1958 - "black label with colorband. 'Capitol' at left"
• W 782 (M) After Midnight 1962 - "black label with colorband. 'Capitol' at top"

According to information at discogs.com, there were at least 2 versions of the album with only 10 tracks:

• 10 tracks
  • Capitol Records W 782 (?? inch LP) (ref: discogs.com)
  • Capitol Records SM 11796 (?? inch LP) (ref: discogs.com)
• 12 tracks
  • Capitol Records - EAP 782 (four 7 inch Vinyl 'EP's 45 RPM) (ref: discogs.com)
  • Capitol Records – LCT 6133 (12 inch(?) LP) (ref: discogs.com)

"W 782" and "EAP 782" appear to be the original Capitol Records U.S. release 'matrix' numbers for the 33rpm LP and the (four disc, 7 inch 'EP') released versions (respectively). But I can find no explicit confirmation that the W 782 release was not a 10 track (presumably therefore 10 inch) LP - although it is fairly easy to find references (and photos of labels) of a 12 track (presumably 12 inch) Capitol "W 782" LP release. At the time, Capitol often released albums in both formats - 10 inch LP and (soon after) 12 inch LP with additional tracks. But then I would expect the two versions to have different matrix designations. bsnpubs shows only a 12 track version in their preliminary Capitol Discography (ref: bsnpubs). Perhaps one or both of the 2 discogs.org references above (that show a 10 track W 782 and 10 track SM 11796 release) are simply in error???

If anyone can find a reliable source that clarifies this initial release question (10 tracks or 12 tracks or both? - 10 inch LP or 12 inch LP or both?), I hope they can add that information to the article (with citation). Pugetbill (talk) 17:13, 5 December 2011 (UTC)