Talk:A Nightmare on FaceTime

Latest comment: 11 years ago by Nightscream in topic Article needs joke elaboration


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The Shining and Monster Mash edit

I'm assuming that the references to The Shining have to be noted by an outside source before we can add them to the article? Also, is the joke about the Monster Mash lyrics too trivial to be included? Hoof Hearted (talk) 12:49, 25 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

We can add these, but we need to be able to cite those secondary sources in doing so. Nightscream (talk) 22:35, 25 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Yes, that's right, we have to do cite the secondary sources first. It has to be secondary sources, everyone. Strebersau. --JakobvS (talk) 10:43, 4 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Moved to "A Nightmare on Face Time" edit

I'm not sure what the SouthParkStudios site said yesterday, but this morning, the site uses "Face Time" spelling. I can only guess Matt and Trey got a phone call from Apple. BusterD (talk) 14:10, 25 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

We should start editing these pages whilst talking to one another on FaceTime, or while in a Google hangout. Editing in this manner is sure to produce an enormous amount of trivia and cultural references that would improve the article exponentially. — Preceding unsigned comment added by O. long johnson (talkcontribs) 22:49, 11 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

Edit request on 29 October 2012 edit

This article is missing something. During the south park episode "Nightmare on Face Time" , Stan's dad goes through the blockbuster store calling out Stan's name, similar to how Jack Nicholson went insane in "The Shining" (Stephen King's Novel/Movie). Its an obvious Parody of the Shining, in fact Stan's dad is made to look like Jack Nicholson's character from The Shining, until he is frozen. DasBaron (talk) 18:13, 29 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

  Not done: See the banner above. —KuyaBriBriTalk 19:35, 29 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Article needs joke elaboration edit

Its a real shame this article doesn't elaborate on most of the jokes. There are a ton of things that I know are hilarious but unfortunately I don't know the reference. Like When the police Chief talks to Stan when he is in the hospital and says that the Monster Mash is the most important event of the year and one of his subordinates says that it's only on Halloween and then he being shooshed at... would love for some explanation (I'm not an american so maybe there's something I'm missing).

Also, Randys frozen face- now that *has* to be some visual gag reffering to troll face. Right?...— Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.183.212.134 (talk) 16:43, 22 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

It's not Wikipedia's job to explain jokes to its readers. We're an encyclopaedia: we only add cultural references if they are proven by reliable sources and do not constitute original research. – Richard BB 16:51, 22 March 2013 (UTC)Reply
Exactly. It is not the role of a general knowledge encyclopedia to explain or elaborate on jokes. That's the sort of thing found in fan sites, fan encyclopedias, and fan wikis. Nightscream (talk) 17:24, 22 March 2013 (UTC)Reply