Talk:3 a.m. Eternal

Useful link(s)

• John Peel's Festive 50 (1992) - features The KLF vs ENT at #44. --Vinoir 00:46, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

The White Room OST

A minor point perhaps, but my mp3 of "3 a.m. Eternal (The White Room OST version)" sounds very much like an edit of the Pure Trance Original. Either I've got a mis-named mp3 and have never heard the OST version, or it's wrong for us to claim elsewhere that only a "Build a Fire" remix and "Kylie Said to Jason" were officially aired. Can you shed any light? Thanks. --Vinoir 00:16, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I've recently picked up a compilation called The 3 AM Eternal Story which contains 20 (!) tracks. "The White Room Soundtrack Version" and "Pure Trance Original" are certainly very similar. The former may well be an edit of the latter (it is shorter).

Incidentally, besides the widely circulated (and fantastic) original version of The White Room album - tentatively called Tunes from the White Room, I gather, and which is to my ears a half-way point between Pure Trance and Stadium House, there is at least one version of the actual soundtrack ripped from the film, which is not exactly the same as the original album. Also, there may well have been more than one version of the soundtrack during the film's production. Confused? Accept the contradictions :) --kingboyk (talk) 10:10, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

The statement Vinoir would have been referring to is likely "Of the original mixes recorded for the film soundtrack, only "Kylie Said to Jason" (which was omitted from the final track list), "3 A.M. Eternal" and a version of "Build a Fire" saw legitimate commercial release." which is in The White Room (KLF album). Another editor has subsequently added a tracklisting to that article for Tunes From The White Room, where 3A.M. is listed as '"3 a.m. Eternal" (Pure Trance Original) (Edit)'. So, that statement was fixed at some point. I'll double check for accuracy now. --kingboyk (talk) 10:35, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Any negative reviews available?

One would hope that somebody thought the record unmitigated crap? :) (Although I have to admit, I was into rock music at the time and this was one of the key records in opening me up to electronica). --kingboyk 14:34, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmm. If they did, they haven't yet graced the Library. 808 State were angry - does that count? (And I haven't found a decent ref for that yet either) I had the pleasure of hearing the Blue Danube Orbital for the first time within the last year. I like it when that happens. --Vinoir 18:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

What were they angry about? --kingboyk 18:51, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, here's what the FAQ reckons (link): The KLF had nicked 3 a.m. Eternal's signatory beeps from an 808 State track called "Tunes Splits the Atom". 808 State had themselves nicked that from "I Am The Resurrection" (if it's true it must've been a remix, but the FAQ doesn't say so), for which The Stone Roses demanded royalties. --Vinoir 20:52, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

If we had a source it could go into the article... --kingboyk 23:08, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Elsewhere (I forget where, but it wasn't a 'source') I read that it was the bass from "Resurrection" rather than the beeps. Pretty confusing, because I'm sure nothing like that bassline appears in "3 a.m.". --Vinoir 00:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Little discussion about the actual track content

Not much seems to be said about the actual track, melody, meaning (no laughing at the back of the class), samples (except the style of each remix/version). I guess it can be near impossible. For example, no cross-reference to the machine-gun "This is Radio Freedom" sample that starts the track, from the ANC's Radio Freedom? •Λmniarix• (talk) 10:43, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

@Amniarix: User:Vinoir was our resident wordsmith when it came to writing about the actual compositions and how they sounded. He was extremely good at it but, alas, left Wikipedia. The intention was probably to get round to writing a Composition section before we went to GA, and that didn't happen as Vinoir left. You'll see it's still on the todo list up top which was last edited in 2007. [Funnily enough - or not, I've had GA reviewers object to us having a Composition section and others complain when it's missing :)]

I wasn't aware where the "Radio Freedom" sample came from. If you have a reference please add the info. Beware though that sample isn't on all versions - I'm listening to the Pure Trance Original right now and it's not there (as the name suggests, that original version is "pure", and not souped up with raps or samples; it's quite a beautiful thing). "Radio Freedom" is not on the ENT single either. It certainly opens the Live at the SSL version (which is the version most people know), so you'd need to add the reference to the "Stadium House version" section. --kingboyk (talk) 10:00, 22 March 2020 (UTC)