Talk:2023 IndyCar Series/Archive 1

Latest comment: 1 year ago by GhostOfDanGurney in topic "All" vs. "TBA"
Archive 1

"All" vs. "TBA"

Jovanmilic97 - The usual practice for IndyCar tables, at least since I've been editing, has always been to use "all" when the sources state they are full-season entries. I am aware that the Sports Car side does things differently, however I believew that com,es from the nature of sports car racing where drivers are much more "just another person" than in single-seaters or NASCAR. Using "all" also solves the problem of having to manually edit the table for every driver after every race. I'm not opposed to removing the column altogether and then adding it back after race 1, as it is at 2023 Formula One World Championship, but using "TBA" is inappropriate in my opinion, as these entries have been announced as being full-season entries. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 13:49, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

GhostOfDanGurney Reading what you said multiple times, I've come to a conclusion that it is probably for the best to remove the column until the season starts. You've raised a good point here. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 13:55, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
In that case, do you think it's worth it to separate full-season and part-time entries into different tables, similar to 2023 NASCAR Cup Series separating "chartered" and "non-chartered" entries? There aren't any yet (to my recollection) but we'll likely have some Indy one-offs like usual. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 13:58, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
I think a cited note added to a driver would suffice for such cases, no? It should be easy to explain about part-time (ovals only) entries there in my view. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 14:02, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
Yeah, that's cool. Whatever works best is fine by me. -"Ghost of Dan Gurney" 14:03, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

@Thecatwhogotthemilk: Do you have anything to add here? - "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (work / talk) 02:36, 3 December 2022 (UTC)

RegalZ8790 Can we at least wait until Race 1 to add the column back? It is against WP:V to state that a driver has competed in "all" rounds already as there is no guarantee that a driver will compete in all events even if confirmed by team with source (ie, Calum Illot missing a round last year). The way the Sports car editors do it round by round is more appropriate. - "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (work / talk) 03:38, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
Another possibility mid-season is to add another column to the table that can separate completed from scheduled/uncompleted rounds. I feel the existing IndyCar practice of having a single table is clearer and more holistic than one of separate tables.
The season has not stated, to the "completed" table could be left blank. RegalZ8790 (talk) 04:34, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
That's fine by me. I'd also be in favour of adding another column to keep the sources; I think it would look far tidier than the current practice of chucking them in wherever in the table. Jovanmilic97 are you okay with all of this? - "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (work / talk) 14:16, 28 January 2023 (UTC)