Talk:2022 Southwest Airlines scheduling crisis

History_-_Southwest_airlines_strikes/sick_outs/blue_flus/meltdowns_in_October_2021_over_mandates_and_Dec_2022_from_missing_IT_infrastructure

Some report the October 2021 Southwest mass cancellation event was due to a sick out/Blue flu. See Talk:Strike action - - History_-_Southwest_airlines_strikes/sick_outs/blue_flus/meltdowns_in_October_2021_over_mandates_and_Dec_2022_from_missing_IT_infrastructure . Anyone dispute mentioning that? I cared (talk) 05:03, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Honestly, I've stepped away from editing this page for a few months, but the issue with every discussion I've seen about a sick-out or "blue flu" is a lack of sources that meet WP:RS. Everything I read boiled down to bloggers using anonymous tweets and forum posts as sources; SWA, SWAPA, TWU Local 556, etc. were all formally denying that a sick-out had taken place. Per WP:UGC, the bar is high for justifying a blog as a source, and it's doubly difficult to meet that standard when the sources quoted by the blog all seem to be anonymous. On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog, so it's hard to take an anonymous user's word that he or she is actually an SWA pilot. If you have a reputable, solid source, feel free to add to the article. Carguychris (talk) 14:25, 8 June 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 20 December 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (non-admin closure) Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 22:08, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

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2022 Southwest Airlines scheduling crisis → 2022 Southwest Airlines holiday meltdown – Per WP:COMMONNAME. During the year since the event took place and this page was created, numerous major media outlets have begun referring to it as the "holiday meltdown" or "holiday travel meltdown", including the BBC, The New York Times, Reuters, and CBS, to name just a few. Google search results for "holiday meltdown" surpass "scheduling crisis" by a huge margin, and none other than the USDOT has adopted the term "holiday meltdown" in its news release announcing the historic $140M penalty. Carguychris (talk) 16:31, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose - "Scheduling crisis" is more descriptive than "holiday meltdown". --Jax 0677 (talk) 16:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

  I agree, but Wikipedia seems to be one of the few places on the Internet to use that name, and there are many historic events that aren't quite what their WP:COMMONNAME implies them to be. Carguychris (talk) 13:48, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

• Oppose – "holiday meltdown" is tabloid clickbait phrasing. I might go along with 2022 Southwest Airlines holiday scheduling crisis or 2022 Southwest Airlines holiday travel crisis. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 21:29, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

If not "scheduling crisis" or "travel crisis", then "system breakdown", "system disruption", or "scheduling system breakdown". —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 03:59, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

I think the current name is more WP:CONCISE than any of those suggestions, which is why (full disclosure) I suggested the current name in the previous RM. I still think it's apt and concise. My concern is that almost every major media outlet has since settled on "holiday meltdown" or a close variation, and with the USDOT joining the chorus, I figured it was time to run it up the flagpole and see what the Wiki community thinks. Carguychris (talk) 13:55, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

More concise, yes, but some of the others may be more recognizable. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 13:58, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

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