Talk:2016 United States Marine Corps helicopter collision

Latest comment: 7 years ago by 194.50.51.252 in topic Categories

Super Stallion or Sea Stallion? And collision edit

There is no consensus in the reporting on whether the helicopters were Sea Stallions, or Super Stallions. The reporting names both at a rate of about 50/50. Can we get some confirmation? (If they were CH-53Es as many news agencies are reporting, then they are Super Stallions. But many news organizations are reporting that they are Sea Stallions. It is likely that the reporters don't know the difference. (Nor do I) Hopefully we can get this buttoned down soon.

  • Update: It appears that they were CH-53Es, the Super Stallion. I will make the relevant adjustments to the article with a specific reference to them being the Super Stallion model.

Also, while the authorities say the accidents cause is under investigation, witnesses on the beach reported a mid-air collision. And the vast majority of news reports are reporting this as a collision between the two helicopters.Juneau Mike (talk) 11:09, 17 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Context edit

This accident, assuming the crew did not survive after 3 days in the water (and I hope they did), is comparable to the Green Ramp disaster in 1994, which was also caused by a mid-air collision. While Green Ramp had a higher death toll, it also was a peacetime military accident with heavy casualties. This 2016 accident, involving the destruction of two of the worlds largest helicopters, and the loss of twelve U.S. Marines, appears to be the worst peacetime military accident since Green Ramp, and certainly one of the worst peacetime accidents for the U.S. Marines in history.Juneau Mike (talk) 02:54, 18 January 2016 (UTC)Reply

Categories edit

Why isn't this part of the aviation incident category? Category:Aviation accidents and incidents in 2016 Beejsterb (talk) 05:27, 30 May 2016 (UTC)Reply