Talk:2012 FIM Superstock 1000 Cup

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Stkeu5 in topic /* Riders' standings */ RSM no SMR

A small clarification: the stats on the WSBK website can be wrong, the Imola race was run in two legs and I put Ret to riders retired in 1st part and not restarted (like it was done in 2012 Superbike World Championship season in Assen, with Sykes and McCormick retired before the interruption); in Aragon Chmielewski and Lussiana were not on grid at the start (look at the race highlights, I see only 23 bikes, not 25); unfortunately sometimes those documents are confusing and misleading, because they interpret similar situations in different ways from time to time. Gpmat (talk) 16:20, 3 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

This is where situations get confused, take BSB if the race is stopped and you don't make the restart you are not listed at all, now the DNS tag has been used but they started the original race so would NC not be better? Because they are not classified but still started the race but were unable to finish. Think we need to make a clear decision across all motorcycle racing about how we use the: WD, DNS, Ret and NC tags because they all mean something slightly different but could be confusing to the average joe looking at the results. Xrateddan (talk) 18:27, 4 July 2012 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I pointed out the fact that we should use consistency in these unusual situations, even if the official timekeepers sometimes are not consistent. I think we should always adapt what the official sources say to what really happened on track and not just do a parrot-fashion copy of what the documents say.
An example of inconsistency in races ran in two valid parts in WSBK with riders retired in 1st part or not restarted:
  • in 2011 Misano race 2: Melandri & Camier (not restarted), Polita & Aitchison (retired before red flag) are listed as retired;
  • in 2012 Assen Race 1 McCormick & Sykes (retired before suspension) are not listed at all;
  • in 2012 Miller Race 2 Aoyama (not restarted) is listed as DNS
That's why I said that "the stats on the WSBK website can be wrong", because for similar situations they can show different results. Gpmat (talk) 10:14, 5 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

/* Riders' standings */ RSM no SMR edit

look here :https://resources.worldsbk.com/files/results/2012/RSM/SBK/001/CLA/Results.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stkeu5 (talkcontribs) 15:58, 20 December 2020 (UTC)Reply