Talk:2011 Tour de France

Prologue

This years tour does not seem to have a Prologue. Thats rather unusual, can't remember there not being one. Can somebody with a good reference add that to the article? Calistemon (talk) 00:51, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Found one. Calistemon (talk) 01:06, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Prize Money Section

The following does not make sense but I can't work out what it's meant to say.

"The stage winner is awarded 8,000€. The money is given up to the first 20 finishers are awarded 200€. Should the stage be a time trial, the winner is awarded 10,000€ for the stage win. The money gradually decreases, with the 20th finisher receiving 200€. The intermediate sprint gives away 1,500€ to the first person to cross it, there is one sprint each stage. Money is also awarded for crossing the categorized climbs, for the best young rider of each stage, and the most combative rider, and the best team of the stage" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.59.119.225 (talk) 12:39, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

I have rewritten the section Racklever (talk) 15:38, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Tense

A lot of this article is written in the future tense - can this now be updated? -- Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 05:34, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Evans

I think Evans held the yellow jersey only in the last stage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.134.122.58 (talk) 12:25, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

That's correct, and the article reflects that as far as I can see. The classification leadership table shows who held the jersey after the stage. If it showed who held it during that stage, the whole row would be blank for the first stage, which would be a little bit... awkward. Basically, it reflects who stood on the podium to collect which prize, and Evans went up to collect the yellow jersey twice – after the time trial, and on the podium in Paris. Were you referring to that section? Buttons to Push Buttons (talk | contribs) 12:33, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Final General Classification

all other pages on the tour de france up to 2010 list all the riders' standings in the general classification in a collapsable table below the top 10. this one needs one as well — Preceding unsigned comment added by Celebi12 (talk • contribs) 05:13, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

SODOIT Kevin McE (talk) 07:10, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

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GA Review

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Reviewer: BlackJack (talk · contribs) 17:27, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Review

I'll review this. Jack | ^{talk page} 17:27, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Findings

This a GA review of 2011 Tour de France.

No worries on the WP:WIAGA#Immediate_failures front with all four criteria passed:

1. it is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria:
2. it contains copyright infringements:
3. it has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid — e.g., {{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}}:
4. the article is not stable due to edit warring on the page:

As a result, a full review has been undertaken and the findings are as follows:

• Article size is well over 100k but there is no WP:LENGTH issue as much of the content is in tabular form and the readable prose size is 24k, which is fine.

• Excellent images in use, especially the route map.

• Just out of interest, why do cycling teams change their names so often?

  Unlike other sports, cycling is free to watch in person, so teams are reliant on sponsors. BaldBoris 18:18, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

• Try to avoid redirects as in "Teams" where UCI ProTeam redirects to UCI WorldTeam. Which of these is correct here? If the former, then use a pipe.

  ProTeam is the former name. BaldBoris 18:18, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

• State a brief reason for the obligation placed on the pro teams to enter the race. What would happen if one of them refused?

  At least a fine. BaldBoris 18:18, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

• Please pipe Bunch sprint into Glossary of cycling#bunch sprint. Same with Spring classics into Classic cycle races#Spring classics.

  I've done that because they may become an articles in the future. BaldBoris 18:18, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

• Hushovd is described as the "world road race champion" but the link is to 2015 UCI Road World Championships – Men's road race, four years later.

  Fixed. BaldBoris 18:18, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

• There are a number of grammar and syntax errors in "Route and stages" which should have been copyedited out. I've already done some of these but I'd like an editor to check for these and iron them out, thanks. For example, "...as early as the Pyrenees,". To celebrated the centenary...": rogue comma and "celebrated".

  "...as early as the Pyrenees," is a quote.

• Link to Brittany.

  Fixed. BaldBoris 18:18, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

• Please pipe Prologue (cycling) into Glossary of cycling#prologue.

  Same as above. BaldBoris 18:18, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

• I think a prologue should be briefly explained, thus: "instead of a prologue (i.e., individual time trial), the last occasion being in 2008". This is especially so given mention of "individual time trial" on the next line.
• Done. BaldBoris
• In the stage winners table, no flag for Garmin–Cervélo which is an American team. Seems inconsistent.

  A teams country of registration isn't used for races, only in the UCI Road World Championships – Men's team time trial (since 2012). BaldBoris 18:18, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

• The "Race overview" and "Classification leadership" sections are well-written with a lot of information.

• Useful tabulations to finish the article.

Could you please attend to the above points where necessary and I think this will pass. Placing on hold for seven days. Well done. Jack | ^{talk page} 16:05, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the excellent review. I have fixed what I can for the moment. Will be back tomorrow. BaldBoris 18:18, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

It's fine now, Boris. I'm passing it per the checklist below. Very good work. All the best. Jack | ^{talk page} 18:53, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Checklist

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