Talk:2010 Australian Labor Party leadership spill

A note on procedure

If Gillard wins the caucus vote that would make her leader of the party. She would not become Prime Minister until sworn in by the Governor-General, which could be some hours later. Try not to preempt events. 121.45.199.81 (talk) 16:30, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—whether readers can check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether editors think it is true. If the newspapers are reporting her as being Prime Minister before she is sworn in - and they are - then, for Wikipedia purposes, she is Prime Minister. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.13.1.142 (talk) 01:58, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh please! Are you saying that what the newspapers say trumps the Australian Constitution? And that the newspapers are reliable in this regard? - 114.76.235.170 (talk) 13:48, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

The ballot follows declining ratings for the Labor Party and Prime Minister after numerous policy decisions, including a significant delay to a planned carbon emissions reduction scheme,[5] and the introduction of the Resource Super Profits Tax.[5] Senior Labor MPs conceded that the ALP's primary vote had dropped below 30 per cent in some key marginal seats

there was no ballot, Rudd didn't nominate, Gillard got the position unopposed. 123.243.26.39 (talk) 03:16, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, Gillard and Swan were elected by the ALP caucus - there was no contest and no leadship ballot. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JAD0269 (talk • contribs) 05:23, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

infobox needs updating

Resolved

 – Layout fixed. —Pengo 05:25, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

1200 hits today. High google ranking. Can we fix up the infobox? Tony (talk) 14:58, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Assuming you mean that the pictures don't match the captions below? Fixed. —Pengo 23:46, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

A very significant political happening

This is still a very small article and needs to be cultivated as more information comes to hand. One political commentator stated that it may be the most significant political event since the Dismissal. Whether it can be as historically controversial is still unclear. It is certainly remarkable in the sense that the Australian Prime Ministership has been a stable commodity in the last 34 years. Fraser was P.M. for over 7, Hawke for over 8, Keating four years and Howard nearly 12 after enduring rumours of a challenge for about 8 years.

Peter Costello's lack of a formal challenge to the leadership of John Howard may have caused any future leadership challenges to be enacted swiftly. This successful challenge may herald a new political style of succession in Australia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.74.142.44 (talk) 09:44, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Disambig page

Just a note to say that I've added a link to this article at Labour Party leadership election, 2010 because of the leadership election currently taking place in the UK's Labour Party. There's also a redirect at Labor Party leadership election, 2010 to account for the difference in spelling. Cheers TheRetroGuy (talk) 14:33, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Earlier leadership elections

Does anyone know of a good online source with the numbers for all earlier contests? This 2003 article (It's Hardly The Fix They're Used To) gives the following partial figures for some votes:

Leader

October 1935

• John Curtin 11
• Frank Forde 10

July 1945

• Ben Chifley 45
• Three others (including Frank Forde) 24

1951

• H. V. Evatt Unopposed

1960

• Arthur Calwell 42
• Reg Pollard 30

February 1967

• Gough Whitlam 39
• Two others (including Frank Crean) 29

December 1977

• Bill Hayden 36
• Lionel Bowen 28

February 1983

• Bob Hawke Unopposed

June 1991

• Bob Hawke 66
• Paul Keating 44

December 1991

• Paul Keating 56
• Bob Hawke 51

All leadership elections uncontested 1991-2003

Deputy

1996

• Gareth Evans 42
• Simon Crean 37

The article states that between 1977 and 2003 the only caucus votes for any leadership posts were the two 1991 Hawke/Keating leadership battles and the 1996 Evans/Crean deputy ballot.

I think there were some others - didn't Whitlam have challenges from Jim Cairns and Bill Hayden at opposite ends of his leadership? Timrollpickering (talk) 10:59, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Rename the article!!!

I propose that the article be renamed to "2010 Australian Coup Detat", as many countries overseas called it a coup detat as well as our own media describing as a "bloodless coup". This is one of the most historically important events in Australian political history lets call it for what it actually is... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.189.200.75 (talk) 01:08, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

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