Talk:1997 Michigan Wolverines football team

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Guy Who Fell From Tree After OSU Game

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:1997 Michigan Wolverines football team/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

My initial concern is the length of the section on the Rose Bowl. I'd also consider rewording the first sentence in the background section since I don't think people consider a pre-season ranking of 17 to be "low-expectations"

• It is two or three times as long as most other game sections, but it is two or three more times as important since it was the national championship game.--TonyTheTiger (T/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|C]/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:18, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

1998 Rose Bowl has it's own article. I think a drive-by-drive summary isn't needed here. I understand keeping the scoring drives and the end of the game, but the rest can go into the Rose Bowl article per WP:SS. Also this sentence "With no timeouts left, Leaf's spike of the football, but Dick Burleson, the referee from the Southeastern Conference crew, shook his head as Leaf contested the decision" needs to be fixed. Also, you can probably remove the last paragraph of that section because it deals mostly with players from other schools.~DC _{Let's Vent} 19:27, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

On second thought, considering the length of 2005_Texas_Longhorns_football_team#Rose_Bowl_versus_USC, the length of the section seems fine. It still needs a quick copy-edit though, and I still think the last paragraph of the section should go. ~DC _{Let's Vent} 20:05, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

If I take out everything but "On the last day that underclassmen could declare for the 1998 NFL Draft in early January, junior Woodson also decided to forgo his collegiate eligibility." then I have a stub paragraph that would need to be expanded. Thus, I expanded it by giving context to Woodson's decision. The context being which other players decided to enter the draft and which did not.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:18, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Maybe you could mention where he went in the draft? Or if any players left the team early, or coaches went elsewhere? ~DC _{Let's Vent} 20:21, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Back then it was a new thing to leave early. Only other name stars from other teams were leaving early, which is why I have added that for comparison. The following year the main coaches were the same (see 1998 Michigan Wolverines football team infobox).--TonyTheTiger (T/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|C]/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:27, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Alright, how about moving it to its own subsection, and maybe mentioning how many seniors left the team. ~DC _{Let's Vent} 03:55, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Moved to the NFL draft section.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:14, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

I have fixed the offending sentence.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:27, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

• Low-expectations removed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:18, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Reviewer: ~DC _{Let's Vent} 18:23, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

• Further comments: This was mentioned in the peer review, but File:1997 Notre Dame at Michigan football ticket stub.jpg needs to be removed since the article doesn't mention anything about the ticket. If you feel it's necessary to illustrate the uniform, why not use File:Big10-Uniform-Mich.PNG? ~DC _{Let's Vent} 18:55, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
  • removed. If we add back any image it would be something like http://www.raeky.com/1997_Notre_Dame_at_Michigan_football_ticket_stub_copyright_free.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:31, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
• One more thing, in the coaches section, there's no title given for Bobby Morrison. ~DC _{Let's Vent} 20:25, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Since it's a minor thing, I fixed it myself. Didn't think I could but WP:GAN allows it. ~DC _{Let's Vent} 03:31, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

So the final result is passed. ~DC _{Let's Vent} 03:31, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Statistics

Why does this article include an exhaustive table of statistics when the other featured football articles do not? see 2005 Texas Longhorns football team and 2007 USC Trojans football team. I used to add stats to the Penn State articles but at some point I had my fingers cracked and was told that a stats table is a "no-no" on wikipedia. Dincher (talk) 00:00, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

NotStats Dincher (talk) 00:08, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

People who want to know about Michigan football or any other sports teams expect stats. Almost any basic GA review for a sports team requests that stats be added. I don't know how much stats is too much, but these stats seem to be basic stats of interest to a reader about a sports team and worthy of being WP:PRESERVEd.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:23, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Possibly false claim?

In section 'Pre-season': "The 1997 Michigan team was the first since the 1969 team to have no Rose Bowl veterans."

This claim is sourced from the Chicago Tribune's 1997 preseason preview (the claim is not found in the second listed source from the New York Times). Obviously the Tribune is generally a trusted source, but this claim seems dubious. Michigan had a 4-year Rose Bowl drought from 1972 to 1975, the same length as the Rose Bowl drought heading into 1997. So unless there was some sort of special case with a player's eligibility, a freshman on the 1971 Rose Bowl squad could not have played for the 1976 squad. This would mean that the 1976 team also had no Rose Bowl veterans.

Ostealthy (talk) 05:57, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

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