Talk:1989 World Snooker Championship

Qualifying for the 1989 Embassy World Snooker Championship

FYI

held on 21st March – 1st April:

1st qualifying round: N Terry beat M Parkin 10-0; C Edwards beat J Giannaros 10-4; M Rowing beat S Mizerak 10-1; B Bennett beat C Everton 10-4; P Thornley beat B Demarco 10-3; T Wilson beat M Francisco 10-5; D Mienie beat V Potasnik 10-6; M Johnston-Allen beat E McLaughlin 10-3; I Graham beat D Greaves 10-0; S Campbell wo G Watson; J Grech beat D Heaton 10-6; M Price wo P Morgan; R Marshall beat M Hines 10-1; D Morgan beat S Frangie 10-5

2nd qualifying round: N Terry beat P Medati 10-8; C Edwards beat Jim Bear 10-7; M Rowing beat J Dunning 10-9; F Davis beat B Bennett 10-4; P Thornley beat M Bradley 10-7; P Fagan beat G Foulds 10-6; B Oliver beat J Rempe 10-5; P Watchorn beat R Grace 10-6; M Morra beat B Mikkelsen 10-4; M Gibson beat M Darrington 10-0; T Whitthread beat J Donnelly 10-7; T Wilson beat G Scott 10-4; J Meadowcroft beat D Mienie 10-7; S Meakin beat T Kearney 10-3; J Fitzmaurice beat C Roscoe 10-9; V Harris beat M Watterson 10-5; A Harris beat J Van Rensburg 10-7; M Johnston-Allen beat G Rigitano 10-3; I Graham wo B Harris; Martin Smith beat S Campbell 10-9; J Smith beat R Foldvari 10-4; J Chambers beat I Anderson 10-7; J Grech beat I Williamson 10-7; Glen Wilkinson beat B Kelly 10-2; John Rea beat Dennis Hughes 10-3; I Black beat D Sheehan 10-8; M Price beat E Sinclair 10-9; B Rowswell beat P Burke 10-0; P Gibson beat R Marshall 10-3; D Morgan beat E Lawlor 10-2; F Ellis beat M Wildman 10-7; A Robidoux beat G Miles 10-8

3rd qualifying round: N Gilbert beat N Terry 10-5; C Edwards beat T Chappel 10-7; M Rowing beat W King 10-7; S Duggan beat F Davis 10-3; P Thornley wo B Werbeniuk; D Gilbert beat P Fagan 10-4; Tommy Murphy beat B Oliver 10-8; D Roe beat P Watchorn 10-5; M Clark beat M Morra 10-6; D Martin beat M Gibson 10-7; D Fowler beat T Whitthread 10-6; J O’Boye beat T Wilson 10-8; M Macleod beat J Meadowcroft 10-9; P Browne beat S Meakin 10-9; R Reardon beat J Fitzmaurice 10-5; Gary Wilkinson beat V Harris 10-6; W Jones beat A Harris 10-4; J Wych beat M Johnston-Allen 10-3; I Graham beat G Cripsey 10-2; Martin Smith beat J Wright 10-7; T Jones beat J Smith 10-7; K Stevens beat J Chambers 10-8; L Dodd beat J Grech 10-9; Glen Wilkinson beat R Bales 10-1; John Rea beat P Houlihan 10-5; R Edmonds beat I Black 10-3; M Price beat M Bennett 10-9 B Rowswell beat M Gauvreau 10-7; K Owers beat P Gibson 10-8; D Morgan beat J Campbell 10-4; J McLaughlin beat F Ellis 10-9; A Robidoux beat M Fisher 10-2

4th qualifying round: N Gilbert beat C Edwards 10-8; S Duggan beat M Rowing 10-6; D Gilbert beat P Thornley 10-4; D Roe beat Tommy Murphy 10-7; M Clark beat D Martin 10-2; J O’Boye beat D Fowler 10-6; P Browne beat M Macleod 10-6; Gary Wilkinson beat R Reardon 10-5; W Jones beat J Wych 10-9; I Graham beat Martin Smith 10-6; T Jones beat K Stevens 10-2; L Dodd beat Glen Wilkinson 10-4; John Rea beat R Edmonds 10-7; B Rowswell beat M Price 10-6; D Morgan beat K Owers 10-8; A Robidoux beat J McLaughlin 10-2

Final qualifying round: S Newbury beat N Gilbert 10-7; S Duggan beat J Spencer 10-1; D Mountjoy beat D Gilbert 10-7; D Roe beat R Williams 10-3; R Chaperon beat M Clark 10-4; J O’Boye beat B West 10-7; P Browne beat S Longworth 10-0; Gary Wilkinson beat T Drago 10-9; W Jones beat David Taylor 10-7; D Reynolds beat I Graham 10-5; T Meo beat T Jones 10-7; E Charlton beat L Dodd 10-6; S James beat John Rea 10-7; E Hughes beat B Rowswell 10-9; D O’Kane beat A Robidoux 10-5; D Morgan beat A Higgins 10-8

188.29.8.15 (talk) 01:46, 2 May 2013 (UTC) Ralph

GA Review

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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 15:21, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

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Prose

Lede

• ranking professional snooker tournament - not a big fan of this wording, I think you can omit ranking here, and link it when you mention it later. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:24, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:09, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

General

• I think the overview/format should really have some sort of mention of the sessions, and how they work. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:36, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• I've had a go at this; suggestions for improvement welcome. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:10, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• Overview doesn't comment on the prior championship. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:36, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• Added a mention - is more needed? BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:10, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• Qualifying could do with being split up a bit better in terms of paragraphs. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:36, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• I added a few details. The split is now between the last qualifying round, and earlier rounds. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 19:15, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• Is it worth mentioning what rank Alex Higgins was, as we commented that he won an event shortly before this. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:36, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• Added. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 19:15, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• 7-4 - might be worth looking through or running the MOS:DASH script. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:36, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• For some reason the script didn't pick this one up. Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:18, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• eventually knocked out 4–13 - defeated. Knocked out is something that happens in boxing. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:36, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:18, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• Could we move the Parrott image to the semi-finals (where he won), and then put in a Steve Davis one for the final? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:36, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• Done. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 19:15, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• red ball with his cue stick - might need some glossary links. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:36, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• Added links. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:18, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• IIRC, didn't Parrott have to do some sort of exhibition as the match finished early? Certainly worth a mention if sources say about it. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:36, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• Added. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 19:42, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• whilst 1989 proved to be the last world final reached by Davis - just say this was the last final for Davis. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:36, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• Amended. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:18, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Review meta comments

• I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:21, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• Thanks for your constructive review, Lee Vilenski - I've replied to all the points above. Let me know about anything else that is needed. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:12, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

• Happy to pass. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:48, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Is this correct?

"...Parrott led by 44 points in the twelfth frame after constructing a 52 break, but lost the frame after Davis compiled a 62 break. Parrott went in-off after potting a red in the thirteenth frame, allowing Davis the opportunity to win the frame with a break of 59. In the next frame, Davis missed potting the pink whilst using the rest, and Parrott made it 3–10 with a break of 68."

12th & 13th frame both win by Davis, the next frame should be 14th which was win by Parrott, but 3–10 indicate this should be 13th frame, am I wrong?--Jarodalien (talk) 14:29, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

There is definitely something off. BennyOnTheLoose - I make it 6-2 after the first session, and 14-3 after the second, Davis leading 11-2. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:20, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Seems we're wrong about the first session. Davis led 6–2 after the first session when we have 5–2. Also there were only 8 frames in the second session, not the 9 we have in the frame-by-frame scores. Nigej (talk) 16:48, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Downer's Almanac has 5-2 after the first session and 13-3 after the second. I think it should be 3-11 rather than 3-10 in the text, but I'll have a look at other sources. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 17:30, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

The Times, Snooker Scene and Downer's Almanac all have 5-2 and 13-3 after the first and second sessions. Are there any sources that say different? I've corrrected the text about the second session. (3-11 and two remaining frames.) Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 17:38, 9 October 2021 (UTC) Just need to sort out a frame score in the final table now... BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 17:42, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

eg https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=tj1AAAAAIBAJ&sjid=TlkMAAAAIBAJ&pg=6302%2C226465 and others, but perhaps they're all basically the same source. Nigej (talk) 18:32, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

If the frame scores are correct, the "six balls in the first four frames" must relate to frame 8 to 11, confirming the 7 frame first session. Nigej (talk) 18:37, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

That looks right now, great work everyone, and thanks for bringing this to our attention Jarodalien Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:01, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Another thing: "Paddy Browne was 5–4 ahead of Willie Thorne after their first session, but then lost five successive frames as Thorne progressed 10–5." Shouldn't be "six successive frames"?--Jarodalien (talk) 03:09, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Yes, it should. I've amended this. Thanks again, Jarodalien. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 07:28, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

No problem, found this only because I'm translating this article to Chinese here, the 7th article I translated about Snooker.--Jarodalien (talk) 07:44, 10 October 2021 (UTC)