Talk:1983 Memorial Cup

Latest comment: 10 years ago by 76.105.145.42 in topic Untitled

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There are a couple of clarifications that need to be made for this article. First, regarding the reason the host Portland team being advanced to the championship game in the playoff round: the reason they advanced had nothing to do with the number of goals scored. Portland defeated both Oshawa and Verdun in the round-robin, meaning that was the tie-breaker if they were tied with either team. As it was stated in the article, the Winterhawks had defeated both teams but the hated Lethbridge club had lost to both, making the game between Portland and Lethbridge meaningless. Second, regarding Mike Vernon: Vernon was the goaltender for Calgary during the regular season and playoffs in the 1981-1982 season and was picked up for the 1982 Memorial Cup by the champion Winter Hawks. Then, for the 1983 postseason, Lethbridge claimed that they should get Vernon added to their team because they were the league champions while the Winterhawks claimed that Vernon should choose for which team he wanted to play. In the end, the Western Hockey League decided to let Vernon make the decision and he chose to play with the Winterhawks for the second straight Memorial Cup. Vernon stated, not long after the tournament, his two reasons for choosing Portland for the 1983 tournament. First, as a Calgary player, Lethbridge was a division enemy and he didn't like them, at all. Second, the Winterhawks teams both years were offensive-minded, which led to a lot of work for their goaltender. While they scored a lot of goals, they surrendered almost as many. Vernon said that he loved playing behind the Winterhawks because he knew he'd get plenty of work, facing 30 shots on goal or more per game. When he played for Calgary and in division games, there weren't a lot of shots on goal, 15-20 per game, and Vernon said that he got "bored" from facing so few shots. The 1983 Memorial Cup was the first of two hosted by Portland. Three years later, they hosted the tournament again but didn't even make it to the championship game. Portland has not hosted a Cup since. The Winterhawks would win the Cup 15 years later, in 1998. That tournament was played in Spokane, a division rival of Portland. Now, in 2013, 15 years later, Portland is on the precipice of winning the WHL title again and going to the Cup, which will be held in Saskatoon, which is yet another WHL city. If Portland defeats Edmonton in the WHL title series and wins the Cup, you could say that the Winterhawks scratched their "15-year itch".76.105.145.42 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:58, 11 May 2013 (UTC)Reply

I see that the article still includes the bogus information I debunked just above. I live in Portland, Oregon and went to several Winterhawks games that season, including several playoff games and all of the games of the Cup that involved the Winterhawks. I also remember what the tiebreaker was for determining that Portland would make the final and knew exactly what the "controversy" was about Mike Vernon. You could say, using Wikipedia terms, that I've provided "original research", yet, you wish to hide behind cognitive dissonance by failing to take into account the truth and facts and keep your bogus claims in the article. Note: the Winterhawks made the Memorial Cup Final in 2013, only to lose, meaning that the "15-year-itch" was not scratched.