Talk:1970 Philippine Constitutional Convention election

Requested move 4 October 2015

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The result of the move request was: No consensus to move, though there is consensus that a new article, to be called 1971 Philippine Constitutional Convention, could be created. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 18:24, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

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Philippine Constitutional Convention election, 1970 → 1971 Philippine Constitutional Convention – Ideally there would be two articles, one about the election and one about the convention itself, but we do not live in an ideal world. There is only one article, this one, and it contains limited information related to the election itself. Most of the article involves the convention (including information that I added today :) ) or is a list of the delegates -- winners of the election -- which is just as applicable to a Convention article. An election article should have information about the non-winning candidates, deadlines and vote process, campaign tactics and issues, controversies, etc. -- in other words more than a list of delegates to the convention. Therefore I propose that this article be moved to the "Philippine Constitutional Convention, 1970" with a subsection specifically about the election with redirects pointing to that subsection, effectively combining the two topics (election and convention) into one article. The convention itself is more significant than the election since it was in the midst of the convention that martial law was declared and since the constitution that came out of the convention and the ratification process solidified and legitimatized Marcos's rule. When and if the election subsection has grown big enough then it can be spun off as a separate article. The page is protected and so I cannot WP:Be Bold and do the move and redirect myself. Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 08:08, 4 October 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 09:12, 13 October 2015 (UTC)--Relisted. Tiggerjay (talk) 17:46, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose Needs expansion rather than moving. This article was specifically created to be about the election. Number 57 08:37, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

What do we do in the meantime, while we wait for the expansion? Why not move, expand, divide as an interim strategy? Wouldn't a subsection on the election work for the interim? If this was stripped down to the election information, it wouldn't be much and the resulting convention article wouldn't be much. Putting them together would -- with redirects to the subsections -- give context, avoid duplication, and possibly inspire expansion so that we will have enough material for two separate articles. Perhaps WP:SIZERULE can be a guide.--Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 04:28, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

If it's a topic that concerns you so much, then rather than wait, perhaps you could do the expansion yourself? Number 57 11:53, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

• Support. To fill in the missing parent article.--RioHondo (talk) 01:18, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

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• • The non-existent parent article (which was so unimportant that no-one bothered to create an article on it) can just be redirected to this one. Number 57 11:53, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

Update Changed the suggested name to 1971 from 1970. The convention started in 1971 and that is how the convention is called at least at the Official Gazzettee see [1]

• Support the newly corrected request of 1971 Philippine Constitutional Convention per WP:NCE. Tiggerjay (talk) 17:46, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose. I'm in agreement with Number 57. The simplest solution to me appears to be, rather than than moving this article, to create a new article at 1971 Philippine Constitutional Convention and split off anything from this article that should instead be discussed in that new article. Note if copying from one page to another, please follow WP:CWW. Jenks24 (talk) 13:27, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

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