Talk:1967 Gibraltar sovereignty referendum

Latest comment: 7 years ago by 69.165.196.103 in topic NPOV

Requested Move edit

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was no consensus. JPG-GR (talk) 03:02, 20 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Gibraltar is used as both a noun and an adjective, for instance:

The Gibraltar telephone directory (2007) has three pages of double columns of entities starting at The Gibraltar Amateur Drama Association and ending with The Gibraltar Yacht registry there are NO entries for anything prefixed with Gibraltarian whatsoever.

The term Gibraltarian has a specific meaning relating to the people and not the institutions of Gibraltar.

General elections are described locally and in published media as such

see: Article about elections in a local daily newspaper

Where the phrase used is 'Gibraltar general election'.

User:Number 57 has changed these on the basis that: Gibraltarian is a legitimate adjective to refer to things related to Gibraltar, not just the people - see [1].

This is an online dictionary compiled by its users, and it cites 'The Gibraltarian Customs' as an example - there is no such entity. His error has been pointed out to him on his discussion page by three Gibraltarian editors who all concur.

The use of the word Gibraltarian is missleading as it would imply that participation in the elections was restricted to Gibraltarians, that is not the case and any registered British Citizen can vote.

Because the other entry exists, I cannot simply move the page and request that someone who can does so promptly.

--Gibmetal 77talk 15:45, 7 April 2008 (UTC)Reply


  • Oppose Despite claims to the contrary, Gibraltarian is widely used as a demonym to describe things related to Gibraltar, and is defined as such by several dictionaries (e.g. Babylon). A quick google search of the term clearly shows that its use it not limited to the people [2] - five of the first ten hits refer to things other than the population. пﮟოьεԻ 57 18:22, 7 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
  •  Support Just because the term Gibraltarian is used elsewhere as an adjective does not mean it is used correctly and is merely a common misconception. --Gibmetal 77talk 20:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
  •  Support Gibraltarian is NEVER used in that context in Gibraltar. The correct term, as used by the Government of Gibraltar on their official notices is Gibraltar as shown in the examples of the websites of official bodies. Using Google you can get 2,870 hits for gibraltan which is never used here at all. --Gibnews (talk) 21:22, 7 April 2008 (UTC)Reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Page move performed edit

Reason:

  • "Gibraltar referendum" in Google News: 40 matches
  • "Gibraltarian referendum" in Google News: 1 match
  • "Gibraltar referendum" in Google Books: 47 matches
  • "Gibraltarian referendum" in Google Books: 0 matches

Jayen466 12:19, 3 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

Just to say that I completely agree with Jayen on this. Wikipedia is not here to change the world for our own consistancy desires. Narson (talk) 12:35, 3 August 2008 (UTC)Reply

Odd citation edit

What is citation 1 for? To prove the title is correct? And what is the bizzare bit about his academic history there for? 76.117.247.55 (talk) 00:34, 29 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Hi. I've addressed this by moving the citation to the end of the paragraph and moving the academic info to his own article. Regards, --Gibmetal 77talk 08:12, 29 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

NPOV edit

The section has what seems like an anti-Spanish bias, with it's unsourced comments on the state of Spain in 1967, which are far from wiki policy of WP:NPOV, no matter the possible truth of those comments (also, WP:UNDUE would suggest that if this is not the only opinion on the matter, others should be presented as well so as not to give it undue weight). 69.165.196.103 (talk) 22:45, 28 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

I agree that the article has an anti-Spanish agenda, it also has many ambiguous and political statements. I've edited the page to remove political statements that have no basis, I left the ones that are ambiguous to the experts. I won't remove the neutrality template until it is concluded the Overview category contains no statements containing political interest. FlagFlayer (talk) 16:34, 23 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

EDIT: The political statements stem from the original article on the History of Gibraltar now known as the Timeline of the history of Gibraltar from the early 2000s (couldn't pinpoint it. They have long since been removed but due to this article being quite hidden due to it being an obscure part of history, the political statements held on for more than 12 years(!). FlagFlayer (talk) 17:05, 23 February 2017 (UTC)Reply

It now seems to be much better, but I'll leave the template there until somebody else concludes so. 69.165.196.103 (talk) 13:51, 25 February 2017 (UTC)Reply