Talk:1956 B-47 disappearance

Sources?

Does anyone have a cached version of citation 3? The current link leads to a 404. --Tiniestkid (talk) 20:16, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Anyone know anything else?

At that time, their destination was not called Ben Guirier airport, it was called Lod Airport. The airport wasn't renamed after Ben until May 30,1972 when JRA rebels massacred a bunch of tourists there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.138.80.231 (talk) 17:20, 13 August 2011 (UTC) Who knows more about the incidence?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Zonk43 (talk • contribs)

Were they near the Bermuda Triangle? --Anonymous07921 (talk) 17:26, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, that's in the Atlantic.--Anonymous07921 (talk) 17:33, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible if we can investigate this crash again since we have better techology and techiques? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.41.168.157 (talk) 16:30, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

I think the plane was stolen by aliens. Theres really no other explanation. Mramz88 (talk) 20:20, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Lod Airport. You're thinking of Ben Gurion Airport in Israel. Ben Guerir Airport is in Morocco. You've confused countries. 2600:8800:204:C400:6529:406F:C73A:507 (talk) 03:51, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Fatalities?

Here is my rationale for removing the fatalities statistic. Firstly, it is not "common sense". It would not be common sense to assume that, even if the plane was confirmed to have crashed (which it hasn't), they would have all died. The B-47 page states that the plane has ejection seats, so it remains a possibility that they could have ejected. The 1948 Airborne Transport DC-3 (DST) disappearance is an example which only lists the crew. On the other hand, Amelia Earhart was legally declared dead in absentia. If it is confirmed that they are legally dead (or point out where it says I should say so in WP:MOS) I'm fine with listing them as presumed fatalities. 8ty3hree (talk) 06:07, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Just to confirm - are you of the view that the plane crashed and the crew died, but that you'd like to see a reference for this, or is it that you suspect that the plane landed/the crew bailed out/etc. and that they survived in hiding? Hchc2009 (talk) 08:06, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

(NB: I think the US Air Force register for 1957, p.513, lists Robert H. Hodgin as having died on 10 March 1956 in North Africa). Hchc2009 (talk) 08:22, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

I have no idea as to the fate of the crew. The article is of the same view. Even if I had any particular theory it would be irrelevant. If we can cite them declared dead in absentia on that date that'd be coherent. 8ty3hree (talk) 02:04, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

I would say that the crew is dead as it is the Atlantic ocean. The big great middle of nowhere. However the odds say they have, and will always have, a chance of surviving. Bur realisticly I would think they would be quite dead.(CaptianNemo (talk) 01:18, 9 October 2012 (UTC))

Aka, as I mentioned originally, WP:COMMONSENSE. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:15, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

It's the Mediterranean Sea, considerably smaller than the Atlantic. Or maybe somewhere between Florida and Morocco as the article also states, but even if it were, there's no proof saying that it crashed in the dead center of the Atlantic or just a hundred meters off the coast. Of course it would be plausible to list Amelia Earhart as having been declared dead in absentia, but the article never says that she and Noonan died in the crash. Even her infobox says that she "disappeared". Please tell me how it is WP:COMMONSENSE to list this B-47 disappearance as having casualties if there are no reliable sources saying so. And if it is, please alter the consensus of the many editors of her page and edit Amelia Earhart to say that she died in the crash as, of course, it would be common sense. 8ty3hree (talk) 02:01, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Not Ben Guirier, but Ben Gurion airport!

This airplane likely did not crash. It went on to Israel in secret, carrying in its two capsules the app. 100 pounds of bomb-grade uranium, which are now known to having gone AWOL from the US Nuclear Materials and Equipment Corporation (NUMEC) stockpile. Mr. Gilinsky and Mr. Mattson very recently found out via FOIA and published that such material went into Israel's early A-bombs. (Previously it was thought that zionism obtained bomb-grade nuclear materials domestically, at Dimona, with the help of the nuclear "research" reactor the french gifted to them in 1959.) 79.120.169.193 (talk) 23:22, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

Please see WP:FRINGE. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:00, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Why ?

Why does this flight read as a single aircraft flight. There were 4 aircraft's in this flight with only one disappearing.