Category talk:Memes

Individual memes?

Should this category include individual memes?

The category description implies that it is only for pages about memes, and any individual memes should be in subcategories. ("This category contains articles on memes themselves. Subcategories provide organization for convenient groups of memes.")

There is also the question of limits. The main says that a meme is "an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from person to person within a culture." Which sounds overly broad for a category to me, and somewhat implies that all pages would be a fit here. If we were to include memes in the category, we need an easily comprehensible criterion for inclusion.

I say that we keep individual memes to appropriate subcategories. --Andrewaskew (talk) 22:05, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Well for one thing there are only three subcategories -- Internet, Music, and Video Game Memes. There'd need to be categories to fit, basically, every meme into if you're going to completely diffuse the category.

Also, Meme says a lot more than than that memes are "an idea, behavior, or style that spreads from person to person within a culture." There's a good deal more, limiting the meaning of the term such that fashion trends, political movements, and so forth aren't included.

Best bet would be to create more subcats that each meme could go in. However, I think that some things are probably just memes without really belonging to a subcat. At any rate, if you're going to tag the page for diffusion, you're going to have to find a way to fit every meme into a subcat. Herostratus (talk) 02:29, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

I tagged for diffusion because of that category description. - Andrewaskew (talk) 05:09, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Ohhh, OK, [[User:Andrewaskew. Well, looking at it more closely, there are only two memes that don't fit into one of the subcats (Music, Internet, Video Game). I think that the dog-homework one is not a meme. If it is a meme, then a lot of articles in Category:English-language idioms are memes too. (If they are, we could have new subcategory "Idiomatic saying memes" or something.)

The chain-letter one, hmnn. I think it is a meme. I guess. It needs it's own category... how about "Pre 20th century memes"? That's a cat that could end up including a couple-few other articles eventually, maybe.

OK. I'll suggest removing the category from the dog-homwork thing and defend it on the article talk page, and if no one objects we'll remove it. You decide the name of the subcat for the chain-letter thing and put it there, then restore the diffusion tag. OK? Herostratus (talk) 15:45, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks.

If we did want to move in idioms, then arguably everything in Category:Phrases could be included, which strikes me as excessive.

As to finding a meme category for chain letter. Then all of our existing subcats are broken down by medium. What do you think of Category:Print media memes or Category:Written memes?

-Andrewaskew (talk) 04:02, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Sure. Herostratus (talk) 14:34, 14 January 2020 (UTC)