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The Battle of the Sexes edit

Latest comment: 15 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

...tennis match dubbed the "The Battle of the Sexes".

Shouldn't that just have one "the" in it? CSWarren 11:35, 20 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

It should also link to The Battle of the Sexes (tennis), not just the disambiguation page The Battle of the Sexes. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 00:56, 20 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

Eid ul-Fitr, end of Holy month of Ramadan in Islam, 2009 edit

Latest comment: 14 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

This is a moveable holiday, this year (2009) it is on September 20, and it is one of the two biggest (depending on branch of Islam) Muslim holidays. So it should be in this selection. I added it on the September 20 page like this:

Eid ul-Fitr (2009), Muslim holiday, end of the Ramadan holy month of fasting.

Crnorizec (talk) 20:59, 18 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

2012 notes edit

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: American Association for the Advancement of Science (ineligible—maintenance); Battle of Kaiapit; Xenu; Hurricane Irene–Olivia
Included: Prussian uprisings (first appearance); Treaty of Ryswick (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); Petrozavodsk phenomenon (first appearance); Islamabad Marriott Hotel bombing (first appearance)
Repeats: Kōtoku-in (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 05:37, 19 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

2013 notes edit

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Prussian uprisings; Kōtoku-in; Treaty of Ryswick (ineligible—maintenance); Petrozavodsk phenomenon; Islamabad Marriott Hotel bombing
Included: Battle of Fulford (first appearance); RMS Mauretania (1906) (3rd appearance, last in 2007; rescued from Ineligible); Battle of Kaiapit (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 70th anniversary); War on Terror (3rd appearance, last in 2010); 2009 All-Ireland Senior Football Championship Final (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 05:08, 19 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

2014 notes edit

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: RMS Mauretania (1906); Battle of Kaiapit; War on Terror; 2009 All-Ireland Senior Football Championship Final
Included: Kōtoku-in (3rd appearance, last in 2012); Hurricane Irene–Olivia (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Pilot (The Cosby Show) (first appearance; 30th anniversary); Don't ask, don't tell (first appearance)
Repeats: Battle of Fulford (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 10:07, 19 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

2015 notes edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Battle of Fulford; Hurricane Irene–Olivia; Pilot (The Cosby Show); Don't ask, don't tell
Included: Prussian uprisings (2nd appearance, last in 2012); RMS Mauretania (1906) (4th appearance, last in 2013); Petrozavodsk phenomenon (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Islamabad Marriott Hotel bombing (2nd appearance, last in 2012)
Repeats: Kōtoku-in (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 02:54, 19 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

Eid al-Ghadeer edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

@Howcheng: Per this source, I updated the observances for September 21 by adding Eid al-Ghadeer. However, per local calendar of Iran and other sources, this observance falls on Tuesday in Iraq and Iran. Could you please change it? Thanks. --Mhhossein ^talk 10:25, 19 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

2016 notes edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Prussian uprisings; Kōtoku-in; Petrozavodsk phenomenon; Islamabad Marriott Hotel bombing
Included: Battle of Fulford (3rd appearance, last in 2014; 950th anniversary); Battle of Valmy (first appearance); Hurricane Irene–Olivia (3rd appearance, last in 2014); War on Terror (4th appearance, last in 2013)
Repeats: RMS Mauretania (1906) (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:39, 20 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

2017 notes edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (ineligible): Cannes Film Festival (maintenance; moved from September 19)
Omitted: Battle of Fulford; RMS Mauretania (1906); Hurricane Irene–Olivia; War on Terror (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: Kōtoku-in (5th appearance, last in 2015); Xenu (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 50th anniversary); Petrozavodsk phenomenon (3rd appearance, last in 2015; 40th anniversary); Don't ask, don't tell (2nd appearance, last in 2014); Veit Stoss (first appearance); Herbert Putnam (first appearance); Edith Rogers (Alberta politician) (first appearance)
Repeats: Battle of Valmy (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 225th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:32, 20 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

2018 query edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Hi Howcheng, can you please look at the edit prior to yours on Rose Francine Rogombé - possibly a date vandal? I checked 3 refs which all have 1942 as birth year. Main page OTD needs to change to 1942? (PS let me know if you prefer I mention queries such as this on your TP or at Errors or article TP.) Thanks, JennyOz (talk) 03:07, 19 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

@JennyOz: Done. Nice catch! —howcheng {chat} 18:12, 19 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

2018 notes edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Battle of Valmy; Xenu; Petrozavodsk phenomenon; Don't ask, don't tell; Veit Stoss (deleted—exact death date unknown); Herbert Putnam; Edith Rogers (Alberta politician)
Included: Prussian uprisings (3rd appearance, last in 2015); RMS Mauretania (1906) (6th appearance, last in 2016); Battle of Kaiapit (3rd appearance, last in 2013; 75th anniversary); Islamabad Marriott Hotel bombing (3rd appearance, last in 2015); John Patteson (bishop) (first appearance); Éva Gauthier (first appearance); Rose Francine Rogombé (first appearance)
Repeats: Kōtoku-in (2nd consecutive appearance, 6 total)

—howcheng {chat} 15:51, 20 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

2019 notes edit

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Kōtoku-in; RMS Mauretania (1906); Battle of Kaiapit; Islamabad Marriott Hotel bombing; John Patteson (bishop); Éva Gauthier; Rose Francine Rogombé
Included: Peace of Ryswick (2nd appearance, last in 2012; rescued from Ineligible); Battle of San Marino (first appearance; 75th anniversary); Battle of the Sexes (tennis) (2nd appearance, last in 2008); 2000 MI6 attack (first appearance); Maurice Benyovszky (first appearance); Jacob Grimm (first appearance); Tereska Torrès (2nd appearance, last in 2017; also appears on September 3, her birthday)
Repeats: Prussian uprisings (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 15:45, 23 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

2020 notes edit

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): Erich Hartmann
Omitted: Prussian uprisings; Peace of Ryswick; Battle of San Marino; Battle of the Sexes (tennis); Maurice Benyovszky; Jacob Grimm; Rose Francine Rogombé
Included: Kōtoku-in (7th appearance, last in 2018); First Battle of Newbury (first appearance); Sack of Balbriggan (first appearance; 100th anniversary); Petrozavodsk phenomenon (4th appearance, last in 2017); Gozbald (first appearance); Enrico Mizzi (first appearance); Dennis Viollet (first appearance)
Repeats: 2000 MI6 attack (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 20th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 03:18, 22 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

2021 notes edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: RMS Mauretania (1906) (maintenance)
Omitted: Kōtoku-in; First Battle of Newbury; Sack of Balbriggan; 2000 MI6 attack; Gozbald; Enrico Mizzi; Dennis Viollet
Included: Battle of Fulford (4th appearance, last in 2016); Battle of Valmy (3rd appearance, last in 2017); Hurricane Irene–Olivia (4th appearance, last in 2016; 50th anniversary); Don't ask, don't tell (2nd appearance, last in 2017; 10th anniversary); Maurice Benyovszky (2nd appearance, last in 2019; 275th birthday); John Patteson (bishop) (2nd appearance, last in 2018; 150th anniversary); Erich Hartmann (first appearance)
Repeats: Petrozavodsk phenomenon (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:53, 21 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

2022 notes edit

Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Battle of Fulford; Battle of Valmy; Hurricane Irene–Olivia; Don't ask, don't tell; Maurice Benyovszky; John Patteson (bishop)
Included: Prussian uprisings (5th appearance, last in 2019); First Battle of Newbury (2nd appearance, last in 2020); Battle of Kaiapit (4th appearance, last in 2018); Xenu (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Éva Gauthier (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Masashi Hamauzu (first appearance)
Repeats: Petrozavodsk phenomenon (3rd consecutive appearance, 6 total); Erich Hartmann (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:55, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

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