Talk:Volodymyr Zelenskyy

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 March 2024

Russo-Ukrainian War

Further information: Russo-Ukrainian War

Zelenskyy and Russian president Putin meeting in Paris on 9 December 2019 in the "Normandy Format" aimed at ending the war in Donbas

Zelenskyy supported the late 2013 and early 2014 Euromaidan movement. During the war in Donbas, he actively supported the Ukrainian army. Zelenskyy helped fund a volunteer battalion fighting on Donbas.

this image's subheading should be changed to mention Macron in the background. Zelenskyy [left] Macron [middle] Putin [right] NotQualified (talk) 20:37, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

 Done Antrotherkus 19:31, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

References

Zelenskyy is not a independent politician

He's a founder of a "Servant of the People" party. This party nominated him as a candidate for president, but, formally, he was nominated as a independent. Information about his politicial party should be edited and, at least, say about his connection to this politicial party. Hea1en (talk) 09:30, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

martial law and end of normal presidential term

How about mentioning in the article that normally there would have been elections by now and he's continuing as President due to martial law. [1] ☺Coppertwig (talk) 22:58, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, Bremps! Done! [2] ☺Coppertwig (talk) 21:27, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Lede

This article’s lede is not in line with the global standard for world leaders. He certainly is in control of a large arsenal but this is not essential to the basic platform of his leadership. I think the lede would be made better if it were in alignment with his global peers. 2001:1308:2DBF:7A00:A4F5:7246:798F:E1D8 (talk) 23:07, 2 June 2024 (UTC)

Could you make more specific suggestions of what you would like to see changed and perhaps suggest new wording? What would you write as the second sentence, and where in the article would you first mention the arsenal? ☺Coppertwig (talk) 20:42, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Actually, I agree with you. I don't like the second sentence. Perhaps the second sentence should be something unique about him, and being sixth or eighth isn't unique; also, the way it's worded makes it sound to me like it's the most or second- or third-most funded, but if you follow the link it seems to be eighth, so it looks misleading (or outdated) to me. How about this second sentence: "Regularly seen in an olive-green shirt [3], he has positioned himself as an anti-establishment and anti-corruption figure, and promised during his presidential campaign to end Ukraine's protracted conflict with Russia." Except for the shirt, I've taken the wording from two places later in the lead. ☺Coppertwig (talk) 22:02, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

I skimmed the whole article and didn't find any source for "sixth largest" armed forces. (Maybe I missed it.) Also I see that the link for "one of the best-funded" actually shows 8th according to one source and 13th according to another. I don't see how to easily tweak this sentence to be less misleading and better-verified, and it's still not the most unique, so my suggested alternative above looks better to me, or perhaps people have other suggestions. ☺Coppertwig (talk) 17:21, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

(formatting ref for green shirt) ☺Coppertwig (talk) 21:12, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

I had missed it -- sorry. There's a footnote with a source for sixth largest. Nevertheless, for the other reasons I mentioned, I want to replace the second sentence as I suggested. ☺Coppertwig (talk) 15:07, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

Another green shirt ref [4] ☺Coppertwig (talk) 18:29, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

And some more green shirt refs [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] ☺Coppertwig (talk) 21:01, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

formatting more recent green shirt ref ☺Coppertwig (talk) 21:14, 8 June 2024 (UTC)

I agree that the line about the armed forces doesn't need to be in the lede, but I'm unsure if the green shirt should be in the first paragraph. Although it is certainly iconic, it seems like too prominent of a place for a fashion choice. Maybe lower down in the lede? Helpful Cat (talk) 22:50, 9 June 2024 (UTC)