Talk:Claude Hamilton Verity

DYK nomination

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 22:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

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• Claude Hamilton Verity
• Charles Verity

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1922 ad for Verity's invention

• ... that Claude Hamilton Verity, grandson of Doncaster mayor Charles Verity, was one of the earlier pioneers of synchronisation of sound with silent films (advertisement pictured)?

• Source: "Claude Hamilton Verity, an engineer from Leeds, whose work on synchronous sound in the cinema deserves far greater mention that it gets (in histories of British cinema in particular)." This source shows Verity was registering patents for synchronisation of sound and film from 1916 onwards, through the 1920s. Note: Although Wordpress is a blog site, Nick Redfern, PhD is a lecturer on film studies at Leeds Trinity University, and is an authoritative source on the subject of Claude Hamilton Verity. Re grandparentage: Verity was the grandson of Claude Verity via Claude's son Edwin Verity. Various notes and citations in both articles confirm that.

• ALT0b: ... that Claude Hamilton Verity, a grandson of Doncaster mayor Charles Verity, was an early pioneer of synchronisation of sound with silent films (advertisement pictured)? (source as above)
• ALT1: ... that navvy Charles Verity, who became a wealthy contractor and mayor of Doncaster, was the grandfather of Claude Hamilton Verity, an early inventor of synchronous sound with silent films (advertisement pictured)? Source: As above for being grandfather of the inventor. For the rise of Charles Verity, see The Doncaster Review, November 1896
• Reviewed: Gusuku period and Jordan Murphy (basketball)2
• Comment: This article was created in userspace over some weeks, then moved to mainspace on 30 April 2024.

Moved to mainspace by Storye book (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 104 past nominations.

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Storye book (talk) 11:05, 3 May 2024 (UTC).

• @Storye book: Both articles new enough and long enough. ALT0 is basically ALT1 with WP:DYKTRIM taken to it and could be trimmed further to ALT0a: ... that Claude Hamilton Verity, a grandson of Doncaster mayor Charles Verity, was an early pioneer of synchronising sound with silent films?; I suppose given that Nick Redfern is an expert I can take it as a source for Claude's occupation, though you wouldn't get away with that on a BLP, and AGF that the ancestral claims are in "South Yorkshire Times and Mexborough & Swinton Times". Earwig has no valid concerns and QPQs both done. There's a {{clump}} in the second paragraph of Charles' Background section - this should be remedied.--Launchballer 13:03, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

• @Launchballer: Thank you for the review. I have unclumped the references as required. I have added ALT0b to the above list, and struck out ALT0. One small comment: "pioneer of synchronising" is an awkward phrase, because "pioneer of" sounds correct with a straightforward noun, rather than a form of a verb. I think it is because the pioneer does it first (even if among others doing it first) and in doing so they lay the foundation for a new phenomenon - that phenomenon being a noun.. Thus: "pioneer of rap", rather than pioneer of rapping" or "pioneer of parkour" rather than "pioneer of doing parkour" etc. Or to put it another way, the noun makes the phrase sharper and punchier in concept than the verb-form could ever do..Storye book (talk) 20:16, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

ALT0b is fine by me. Let's roll.--Launchballer 20:57, 1 June 2024 (UTC)