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List of CBS Sports college basketball commentators edit
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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:INDISCRIMINATE WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. As with sources per WP:RS, 506sports is a forum and collegehoopsnet is merely an announcment of a list of commentators, the other is a blogspot post; neither doing anything to establish notability. SpacedFarmer (talk) 23:04, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Trim and Merge to College Basketball on CBS Sports#Commentators with only the most notable announcers on that list. This list does not meet WP:LISTN for this wiki, but for the fandom wiki, it's fine. Conyo14 (talk) 04:53, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Sources such as newspaper articles dating as far back as the early 1980s can easily be found and later added over a relatively short matter of time with the aid of Google News Archives as well as places like Awful Announcing for more "current" or up to date sources. There's also presumably, official press releases from CBS Sports itself. I would estimate, that sources can be filled up in roughly a day and a half. Also, who would fall under the criteria of being "the most notable announcers" among this particular list? Are we only referring to current announcers for CBS as of 2024, are we referring to announcers who only worked the March Madness tournament? BornonJune8 (talk) 10:46, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- WP:ROUTINE applies. SpacedFarmer (talk) 12:19, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Keep and improve: There are secondary sources discussing these announcers as a group particularly for March Madness, as seen with [[1]], [[2]], [[3]], [[4] and [[5]] being found relatively quickly. I wouldn't oppose possibly reducing this to just the March Madness crews but sourcing does appear to show that the WP:LISTN is met. Again, this isn't a broadcasters schedule so I'm not sure how this is a WP:NOTTVGUIDE and I'm unsure which part of NOTDATABASE the nom thinks this violates. Let'srun (talk) 13:57, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
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Bandhan Mutual Fund edit
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Renominating the article because it has been restored to its original state (after minimal participation in the previous AfD) and has not been modified since the date of its refund (12 May 2024). This circumstance provides ample reason to once again initiate the deletion of the article, based on the same rationale presented during the initial deletion discussion. - "Trivial coverage according to WP:ORGTRIV. Citations are collections of paid news which are highly pervasive and deeply integrated practice within Indian news media WP:NEWSORGINDIA. The primary issue arises from the editor's attempt to pass off two financial products (exchange traded funds), namely BANDHAN S&P BSE SENSEX ETF (BSE:540154) and BANDHAN NIFTY 50 ETF (NSE:IDFNIFTYYET), as company's own stock market listings, which they are not, thereby failing to adhere to WP:LISTED. A comparable effort was observed in the AFD discussion of Aditya Birla Sun Life Insurance, wherein the company tried to be part of NIFTY 50 without proper validation. In a nutshell, the company falls short when it comes to meeting WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH, WP:ORGIND." TCBT1CSI (talk) 07:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Alan Guedes edit
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Fails WP:NPOL and utterly fails WP:GNG. Being the mayor of a certain city that is most populous in a state shouldn’t inherently make them notable as there are no sources to establish GNG. Sources are either WP:ROUTINE or WP:RUNOFTHEMILL which do not count towards GNG. Just like other articles on mayors that I have nominated in the past, just saying one is a mayor doesn’t count, aside that, they should at least pass the three basic criteria for GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 07:31, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Muthazhagu (TV series) edit
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Originally deleted in 2023 under the title Muthazhagu. Recreated under disambiguation by sock and G5 removed by other user. Tagged since March for additional sources and none added. Search for additional sourcing found nothing but WP:NEWSORGINDIA, mentions, or otherwise unreliable sources. CNMall41 (talk) 07:25, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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The Summit Open Source Development Group edit
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I can't find any significant coverage for this organization, and the only mentions I can find just note that they maintained the Abusive Hosts Blocking List. Either a redirect or delete would be a good outcome. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 06:57, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Kanak Dhanai edit
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Fails WP:NPOL and WP:GNG. Was never elected into a political office that makes one inherently notable, the listed sources are mostly statistical websites on election and stuff like that. No GNG pass here. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:51, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Battle of Sambalpur edit
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One more article which lacks significant coverage and the sources don't go beyond mentioning some scattered lines that "Visaladeva, the tenth descendant of this line, was killed by a Muslim ruler of Delhi." There's no Battle of Sambalpur ever occurred per source. It's clearly a WP:HOAX article. Based Kashmiri (talk) 06:37, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Wars of the Deccan Sultanates edit
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Yet another article appears to cover a series of conflicts spanning over a century, which have been amalgamated into many 'wars.' The only source Jaques Tony cited for this title and its prolonged duration does not support the timeline mentioned in the lead and infobox (note that timeline in lead and infobox aren't aligned). This discrepancy creates confusion and suggests a lack of notability. Additionally, the article seems to rely heavily on WP:SYNTH and WP:POVFORK, which is concerning. I hope we don't get to see another non notable 'wars' article spanning centuries or even millennia. Based Kashmiri (talk) 06:19, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Siege of Channapatna edit
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Another Indian 'Siege' and 'Battle' article which lacks notability and significant coverage. It contains irrelevant content, forcefully stretching the article. The relevant sources cited in the 'Battle' section provide only passing mentions, such as "In 1759 it was surprised by the Mahratta army under Gopal Hari, but was speedily released by Haidar Ali" and "The Maratha leader attacked Bangalore and seized Chennapatnam, and Haider countered the attack by sending his favorite officer." It's concerning how these articles can be constructed with such minimal coverage, often just two lines. Based Kashmiri (talk) 05:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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List of ESPN College Basketball personalities edit
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WP:NOTTVGUIDE applies here. Just another case of WP:INDISCRIMINATE WP:LISTCRUFT to appeal to nobody but the small minority of the most ardent fans; another excessively bloated list fit for Fandom but is it encyclopaedic for here? The subjects are not described as a group, failing WP:LISTN. Additionally WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:ROUTINE. As with sources per WP:RS, there is none. SpacedFarmer (talk) 23:10, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
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Trim and Merge to ESPN College Basketball#Personalities with only the most notable announcers on that list. The article on its own is good for the fandom, it is otherwise WP:LISTCRUFT. Conyo14 (talk) 04:55, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
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GMA Saturday/Sunday Report edit
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Tagged as unreferenced since 2009. No good hits on GNews, GSearch and GNews Archives. Most hits are old TV guide lists. Suggest redirecting to List_of_GMA_Network_original_programming#Former_original_programming as WP:ATD. --Lenticel (talk) 08:47, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment on the last Afd
- The suggested reference in the old AfD is from GMA's news network.
- The suggested essay WP:TVSHOW that is used to argue for keep is well, an essay. It's better to follow WP:GNG and cite a reliable sources to support its notability.
- It was part of a mass AfD which probably made it harder for editors then to scrutinize each article's merit during that particular period. --Lenticel (talk) 09:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, also there is also lack of coverage by GMA programming (old shows) and reliable source is original research. This article should be delete per WP:SIGCOV, WP:OR and WP:RS. Icarus58 (talk) 12:27, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of GMA Network original programming#Former original programming per nomination. -Ian Lopez @ 04:58, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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Siege of Chittorgarh (1544) edit
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The article lacks general notability, as there are no cited sources specifically mentioning the Siege of Chittorgarh (1544) or providing significant coverage of this conflict. Instead, it focuses more on unrelated events such as the other conquests of Sher Shah and the Battle of Harmoda (1557). While some sources briefly mention Sher Shah's attention towards Mewar in 1544, there is no substantial coverage of a proper siege of Chittorgarh in these sources. Based Kashmiri (talk) 05:17, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Anne Kadammanja edit
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Fails WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO. Nothing much available to establish notability. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 09:57, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malawi_Broadcasting_Corporation#Anne_Kadammanja where she is being mentioned in trivia. I am the creator of the article, and it would be best to simply redirect it as there are not much sources to support it as standalone article.--Tumbuka Arch (talk) 10:14, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
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Swami Avimukteshwaranand Saraswati edit
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BLP of a religious leader lacking in depth coverage in reliable independent sources. There may be sources in other languages, in which case it would be good if someone could add them. Mccapra (talk) 10:39, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep Avimukteshwaranand is the current head (shankaracharya) of Jyotir Math monastery (matha). His views/ events are covered in newspapers/ TV ABP News [6], Navbharat Times [7], Dainik Bhaskar [8], Economic Times [9], Amar Ujala [10], The Statesman [11], Dainik Jagran [12]--Redtigerxyz Talk 12:38, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify. Poor sources. Current page fails WP:BIO and WP:SIGCOV but the religious person who is the topic of the page has managed to be worthy of notice by making unusual controversies to deserve attention. Sources can be found on the issues and controversies and I am going to lean to Draftify this page for improvement. RangersRus (talk) 14:42, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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Capture of Kabbaldurga edit
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Lacks notability and significant coverage. Cited with poor non WP:RS and WP:RAJ sources which give passing mentions of this event, doesn't deserve a standalone article. Based Kashmiri (talk) 05:05, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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2008 Scottsdale mayoral election edit
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Slightly more extensive than 2012 Scottsdale mayoral election. Still probably falls under WP:MILL. Okmrman (talk) 23:13, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep, Scottsdale is large enough, being one of the 100 largest cities in the United States that its elections are almost certainly notable. I'm not sure how someone can argue the politics of a large city like this one aren't at all notable.
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- Delete Not a particularly notable election (no non-local coverage, so WP:MILL), and only sourced to election results - fails GNG. SportingFlyer T·C 00:44, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Lunar Panoramic Photography - Apollo 14 edit
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I'm a bit conflicted about this nomination - while it's clear a lot of work was put into the article, it appears to fundamentally contradict WP:NOT, specifically WP:NOTGALLERY as a mass gallery of images with no coverage in secondary sources. Perhaps this can be transwikied somewhere else? Trainsandotherthings (talk) 23:40, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Hi, thanks for the feedback. On the face of it, I would agree that the the article appears to be a gallery - in its current form... It's one of a series featuring the panoramas shot on Apollo and I've been focussed on getting the basics in place first so that I can return and enrich each of them later. I'm a day or so away from completing the Apollo 17 article, but I would stand up the "Lunar Panoramic Photography - Apollo 11" article as an example of the direction I intend to go in. Although that isn't complete either, at least it includes some of those added-value features, such as placing the panoramas in context through the use of maps, and providing commentary as to how the shots came about. (And after Apollo, there's all the panoramas from the automated missions that occurred before and after the manned missions.)
- Naturally, having done the work, I think it's a worthy inclusion. If there is a more appropriate format for it to be presented in then I would be happy to transfer it, but, for now, I'd prefer to think of it as moving in the direction of being a 'Catalogue' rather than a 'Gallery'... Usedtoknoweverything (talk) 14:05, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: This almost looks like it satisfies LIST, with some critical discussion about items in the list, a significant lead and a closing paragraph. This could be useful for someone looking at the photos for context of the larger lunar mission. Oaktree b (talk) 00:44, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- My issue is that there isn't even a single secondary source covering the topic. If there were, I wouldn't have brought this to AfD at all. The article appears compliant with policies, except for notability. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 01:03, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - It would be a tragedy to delete these, but as of now they don't seem to satisfy WP:NLIST. We would want secondary WP:SIGCOV discussing either the set of photographs or the photography techniques used. This certainly does seem to be widely discussed. With a quick Google Scholar search, I found: blog post from NASA, this book, "Training Apollo astronauts in lunar orbital observations and photography" in this edited volume, and possibly this book. I'm leaning keep, since I suspect sources exist; there appear to be hundreds of papers written about Apollo photography, presumably some of them discuss e.g. Apollo 14 specifically. Suriname0 (talk) 19:54, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
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Conway Pretorius edit
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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. All I found was this transactional announcement. JTtheOG (talk) 03:39, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Gemma Khalid edit
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Significance for WP:BIO is not visible.--Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 03:18, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Wilmaure Louw edit
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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 03:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Dabney Crossroads, Mississippi edit
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I don't believe this to be a notable location. The only modern coverage I can turn up for this is use of this place as a waypoint or the fact that a USGS quadrangle map was named for this site. Newspapers.com does not catch any coverage of this either except for an appearance in a listing of places served in a county supervisor's district either. Admittedly, the standard methods do not always do a good job of turning up coverage for older extinct places. However, the lack of any mention in Ed Bearss's gigantic trilogy on the Vicksburg campaign suggests this place was either not known by this name or was not significant at the time, as Bearss' work is very detailed in mentioning the minor place names of the area and the Vicksburg campaign raged right through Hinds County. I haven't seen anything that would indicate a WP:GEOLAND or WP:GNG pass here. Hog Farm Talk 03:20, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Eital Bredenkamp edit
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I am unable to find enough coverage of the subject, a South African rugby union player, to meet WP:GNG or WP:SPORTCRIT. JTtheOG (talk) 02:58, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Gupteswor Cave, Parbat edit
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Lacks significant coverage in reliable sources with only 10 Google search results. Fails WP:GNG. Mia Mahey (talk) 01:52, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Topics that meet WP:GEONATURAL, verifiable here, are usually kept. Deletion is out of question. Question is, how/where should it be included in the encyclopedia? Usedtobecool ☎️ 04:33, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge There is another article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gupteshwor_Mahadev_Cave which seems to be covering the same cave. Wikilover3509 (talk) 03:58, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- No, that's a different cave. It just happens to be a name that Shaivite Hindus are likely to independently come up with when they find a cave that they're surprised they didn't find earlier and/or houses a notable rock formation that can be declared a Shiva Lingam. It could mean Cave of Lord Shiva in his form as the god of things that are hidden (or perhaps, Cave of the hidden Lord Shiva). — Usedtobecool ☎️ 05:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of caves in Nepal for now, and mark as {{RWP}}. Usedtobecool ☎️ 05:35, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Precision cut liver slices edit
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Yet another subarticle of Precision cut tissue slices, created by a now-blocked paid editor for a company in the industry. There's a minimal history; not sure if it's too detailed for Wikipedia or would want to be merged into Histology or something. -- Beland (talk) 02:25, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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Vibratome edit
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This article was apparently created by a now-blocked paid editor working for a company in the industry. The content is partly how-to and partly promotional and partly trivia. Perhaps it's best to drop it entirely or trim most of it and merge anything worth keeping into Microtome#Vibrating? -- Beland (talk) 02:22, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Ah, my mistake; it was created by User:Davidswanepoel; the blocked User:M66JX did not start editing it until October 2023. Some spammy content was added by User:Neurolady27, who also attempted to create Precisionary Instruments. This was the company that apparently paid M66JX, so now I'm wondering if this was actually a second paid editor or account? -- Beland (talk) 02:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Mont-Tremblant/Lac Ouimet Water Aerodrome edit
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Fails WP:NBUILDING and WP:GNG. Long defunct airport, Only "reference" stated is the Nav Canada Wikipedia article, which make no mention of this airport, and is improper as Wikipedia is not a reliable source.
Note: this is TC LID CST9, NOT Mont-Tremblant/Saint-Jovite Airport (TC LID: CSZ3), so if you are determining if there are any WP:RS to find, they are different airports. Zinnober9 (talk) 02:15, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. The 15 March 2007 Canada Flight Supplement mentioned in the article is a valid reference. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 05:45, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment - The nominator is mistaken about the source. The information is not sourced from, or claimed to be sourced from the Nav Canada Wikipedia article, but rather the Canada Water Aerodrome Supplement. The link to the Wikipedia article is for clarity as the CWAS does not appear to be available online other than for purchase from Nav Canada. - ZLEA T\C 07:06, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Precision cut kidney slices edit
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Like precision cut tissue slices, this appears to have been created by a now-blocked paid editor, and is of uneven quality. Precision cut lung slices was created at the same time, but seems more informative. (I mention it in case someone wants to nominate it as well.) -- Beland (talk) 02:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment All the articles you mentioned read like college essays. There are brief references to some real publications, but no backing for other statements. It's all loaded with WP:OR. If anything, make precision cut tissue slices the main article, then merge the remaining to that. Otherwise, this probably could have been Speedy deleted? Conyo14 (talk) 07:29, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Pit (Kid Icarus) edit
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Article was brought back recently, and again I feel the arguments of the previous AfD hold true here. Every new source added- with few exceptions- are either unreliable or a very trivial mention in a review of Uprising. Even using sources from the previous iteration of Pit's article, there still isn't nearly enough for a whole article. I recommend to restore the redirect, since nothing has been proven to state that the discussion's consensus has changed. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 02:09, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Pinging @Kazama16, who revived the article, for thoughts. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 02:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Restore Redirect - This was just Merged by pretty strong consensus at an AFD just three months ago, and really should not have been unilaterally restored without some kind of discussion first, which as far as I can see did not happen. But, regardless of that, the current version does not show any greater coverage in reliable sources that was presented or found in the previous discussion. All of the added sources in the reception section are simply reviews and coverage of Kid Icarus: Uprising as a whole, where the few sentences and quotes that specifically talk about Pit as a character are being cherry picked out to give the illusion of significant coverage. Uprising was a notable game that garnered many reviews, but cobbling together a dozen minor sentences of "reception" on the main character in them do not add together to give Pit his own notability separate from that of the games he appears in. Rorshacma (talk) 02:34, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect Sources that are used are press releases,
listicles, or articles about the game not the character. Still the same as the previous AfD. Update. Article still fails notability. Most were just trivia or passing mentions. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 03:05, 19 May 2024 (UTC) - Keep Boneless Pizza! Listicles??? where show me sources that cite "Top 10 best video game characters", Top 10 archers in video games" show me where are those sources? please carefully check the article before choosing your decision. Also what about page no 8 and 9 of this book in Portuguese about Pit.[13]] This whole article is about him.[14] and this too [15] (about his supposed design). There might be even more sources that are currently not present in the article, so stop being quick for deletion as I suggest.
- Perhaps I was exaggerating about listicles, but you're just throwing unreliable sources here except the book one which might be bit useful. Pls do not bludgeon the discussion and make any WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES argument. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 05:27, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- They aren't really bludgeoning, they're just defending their reasons for making the article. Regardless, per above, 3 is only dev info, and that can only go so far given the lackluster Reception. The Fwoosh does not seem to be a reliable source. The book source is entirely plot summary from a quick read. None of these seem to be making an impact on notability, and per prior AfDs, searches for sources have historically turned up very little, making the THEREMUSTBESOURCES argument moot. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 05:35, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- The "so stop being quick for deletion as I suggest" doesn't sound right. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 05:38, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Restore Redirect My prior rationale remains the same. I agree that it should have been discussed before it was restored. Perhaps it's worth pinging the restorer to this discussion to maybe give their opinion? Personally, I would not have taken it to AfD knowing the outcome will be the same, just redirect it. Conyo14 (talk) 07:22, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. While I think the article needs clean up and a trim to focus on best sources, from a search I'm left with a sense of sufficient coverage, beyond trivial mentions in a game review, of Pit as a multimedia character not reducible to a Kid Icarus redirect (perhaps only just, but even so). Participants in the discussion may already be aware of this IGN article which covers Pit across several media appearances outside Kid Icarus. In addition to that, I found this Bleeding Cool article reporting on and assessing a Pit figurine. And the first chapter of this academic book from Bloomsbury Publishing includes coverage of the Pit character in the Kid Icarus franchise. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 07:36, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
CFAV Barkerville edit
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Article says absolutely nothing about the subject besides its name. There is no reason for this article to exist separately from Naval Large Tugboat. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 01:16, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
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Mercedes-AMG G 65 edit
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I think the article is not needed. G class is a perfectly good page, and this is a minor variant. Saad Mirza (talk) 00:38, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
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- merge YBSOne (talk) 09:58, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Category:Mercedes-Benz G-Class. There are nine articles involved, but the others are not up for deletion. This one is sourced and informative. Why delete one and keep the others? Mercedes is globally known, and a top-of-the-line brand as auto brands go. — Maile (talk) 01:03, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep There is no sourced information on this model in the main G-Class page, which is already extremely long. It makes a lot sense to leave this so people can read about this variant, without having to scroll through that page to find a brief summary. In fact the G-class has so many variants over its history, having smaller article like this that is actually about one design is much more straightforward. The main article has really become about the decades long history of the G-class now. A75 (talk) 12:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I am surprised there is no interest in merging the content with sources, as there is nothing on the main page right now, but a brief unsourced summary. I highly recommend preserving the content, its one of only a handful of V-12 suv in history. A75 (talk) 13:20, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
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CFAV Haro edit
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Article says absolutely nothing about the subject besides identifying its namesake. There is no reason for this article to exist separately from Naval Large Tugboat. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 01:15, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
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We Are One (global collaboration song) edit
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I'm not sure which WP:N criteria to apply here, whether it's NMUSIC, WP:NEVENTS, or just GNG. However, it doesn't meet any of those. This PROMO was created based on coverage that doesn't seem to have WP:SUSTAINED coverage. An interesting point to note is that the article claims the song features 40 musicians from seven countries, but I couldn't find coverage in RS outside Pakistan, except this and this but they're PAID placements. Interestingly, the creator also once nominated it for FA. Seems quite UPE. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 11:41, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: Source 7 is listed as a RS, I find this from a Gulf newspaper [16] and this from the UN [17]. It's a global collaboration among what seem to be mostly unknown artists, but with some minimal coverage. Oaktree b (talk) 00:06, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Is this the same song? [18], if yes, could help notability. Oaktree b (talk) 00:08, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oaktree b, This Gulf-Times coverage stems from an interview, so it's ROTM coverage. Similarly, the coverage from UN and CTV News is UNRELATED to this song. They don't even mention Kashan Adani, the producer of this song, nor any mention of Pakistan. Anyone arguing to keep this article must present
three best sources to determine if this song passes GNG. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:57, 12 May 2024 (UTC)- It seems there were several songs with the same name "We Are One" during the COVID period. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 10:01, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, so we can remove the UN and CTV article, even if the Gulf article stems from an interview, it's still fairly extensive, I'm still at a !keep, week keep, but yes. Oaktree b (talk) 19:58, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Oaktree b, This Gulf-Times coverage stems from an interview, so it's ROTM coverage. Similarly, the coverage from UN and CTV News is UNRELATED to this song. They don't even mention Kashan Adani, the producer of this song, nor any mention of Pakistan. Anyone arguing to keep this article must present
- Is this the same song? [18], if yes, could help notability. Oaktree b (talk) 00:08, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as well as the Gulf piece, this is significant coverage in this reliable source [19], more coverage here, passes WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 21:05, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Atlantic306, Coverage in above cited Express Tribune and BOL News stories, including the one in Gulf Times, were published in late May/early June 2020, coinciding with the song's launch on 28 May 2020. However, the criteria require sustained and significant coverage to reflect lasting relevance, which I don't observe here. Furthermore, the coverage by Express Tribune and Gulf Times, based on interviews, does not meet the WP:SIRS criteria. Additionally, BOL News coverage, being a WP:NEWSORGINDIA, may not be reliable enough even for WP:GNG. —Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:09, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
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Malhun Hatun (fictional character) edit
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Fails WP:GNG. Having hard time to find any valuable source per WP:BEFORE + character has no reception at all. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 10:48, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: I searched Malhun Hatun without "fictional character" and went to Google News and found tons of sources about her. Perhaps you should tag it for notability for a week or two weeks, then nominate it for deletion or maybe an assessment, although that's just my opinion. Kazama16 (talk) 14:11, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
- WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 11:33, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
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Files edit
File:Cryptopunks general.jpg edit
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The rationale said that the image was created using a computer algorithm, but images generated by a computer algorithm are ineligible for copyright because it does not contain sufficient human authorship to support a copyright claim, unless it was made in the UK or Hong Kong. Kys5g talk! 04:48, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Categories edit
NEW NOMINATIONS edit
Category:Scottish child businesspeople edit
- Propose splitting Category:Scottish child businesspeople to Category:Scottish children and Category:British child businesspeople
- Nominator's rationale: 3x upmerge for now. This category only has one person in it, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 04:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:56, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Category:Video games using procedural generation edit
- Nominator's rationale: Games with randomly-generated maps is nothing special, it's not even that for one to add this into their game. Almost every RTS, turn-based strategy, city-builder, and open-world survival game has had it. And some of haven't even been listed. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 03:26, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Category:Savoyards in Thirteenth Century England edit
- Nominator's rationale: This category needs to be renamed to match the naming conventions of other categories. I'm not married to the rename but it's the best I could come up with that matches the vibes of the category and the main page Savoyard knights in the service of Edward I Mason (talk) 02:04, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Rename anyway, but preferably to Category:Savoyard emigrants to England. Having England in the name seems more relevant than having the century in the name. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:16, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Category:Fanny (band) edit
- Nominator's rationale: Too little content: only two cats and two articles (and the two cats only have 4 or 6 articles themselves). ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Category:Former universities and colleges of Jesuits edit
- Nominator's rationale: The current name is not only awkward and not parallel to the name of the related category for current Jesuit institutions ("Jesuit universities and colleges") but its meaning is also unclear. ElKevbo (talk) 18:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- If someone has a (legitimate) concern that "Former Jesuit" is also ambiguous - does it mean "a university or college that was once a Jesuit institution but is no longer a Jesuit institution" or "a Jesuit university or college that is now closed" ? - then "Formerly Jesuit universities and colleges" would resolve that ambiguity. The category does currently include institutions in both of those situations so this may be important. ElKevbo (talk) 20:00, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- It is ambiguous in any case and the distinction between current and former Jesuit is also not enormously important. Manually merge to Category:Jesuit universities and colleges insofar the articles aren't already in country subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:27, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: Can you please say more about "the distinction between current and former Jesuit is also not enormously important." In my mind, it's a very important distinction as it indicates a very important shift in the institution's mission, organization, and support. ElKevbo (talk) 03:43, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- Every university or college will eventually be closed or taken over. The category is primarily useful to learn about the history of the Jesuits. Category:Universities and colleges established by Jesuits would be a better name except it is rather long. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:15, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- That's an entirely different subject and you're welcome to establish that category if you feel strongly about it but it doesn't seem terribly relevant to the discussion at hand. And I completely disagree that "the category is primarily useful to learn about the history of the Jesuits" as its primary use is to identify colleges and universities who are identified with that particular religious order. It's less about the history of that order and more about the intended function and role of these colleges and universities.
- "Every university or college will eventually be closed or taken over" doesn't seem like a very helpful or productive perspective at all. Every religion will eventually fade into disuse or change until it's unrecognizable. The sun will eventually explore destroying all life and structure on the planet. The universe will eventually fade into heat death. None of that is very useful when considering what we should or should not do here and now in this encyclopedia. ElKevbo (talk) 15:50, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: Can you please say more about "the distinction between current and former Jesuit is also not enormously important." In my mind, it's a very important distinction as it indicates a very important shift in the institution's mission, organization, and support. ElKevbo (talk) 03:43, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Carib people edit
- Propose deleting Category:Carib people
- Propose deleting Category:British people of Carib descent
- Propose deleting Category:Dominica people of Carib descent
- Propose deleting Category:French people of Carib descent
- Propose deleting Category:Trinidad and Tobago people of Carib descent
- Propose deleting Category:Venezuelan people of Carib descent
- Nominator's rationale The term "Carib" is ambiguous as it can be used to refer to either the Kalinago (Island Caribs) or the Kalina (Mainland Caribs). Despite both being commonly called "Caribs", the Kalinago and the Kalina are different peoples with different languages and cultures. There isn't a single "Carib" group encompassing both the Kalina and Kalinago. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 13:55, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- The problem is clear, but is deletion the best solution? What about splitting to Kalinago and Kalina? Marcocapelle (talk) 04:26, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Cartoonists by country templates edit
- Nominator's rationale: Only contains 1 template which is already within Category:Comics creator navigational boxes. – Fayenatic London 21:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- If not deleted, then rename to Category:Cartoonists templates which could also hold Template:Underground comix cartoonists, Template:Cartoonists from Kerala, Template:Cartoonist-stub and its 3 related national templates, and Template:Seth (cartoonist). These are the only templates with cartoonist in the name, although there may be other navboxes for comics creators who are more specifically cartoonists. – Fayenatic London 21:00, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Renaming and populating isn't a bad idea at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:14, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Uyghur women poets edit
- Propose merging Category:Uyghur women poets to Category:Uyghur poets
- Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between type of writer, ethnicity, and gender. There's not a Uyghur women category or women poets by ethnicity. Mason (talk) 00:21, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:22, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Category:Member municipalities of the Greater Vancouver Regional District edit
- Nominator's rationale: The regional district has gone by the "Metro Vancouver" title for several years now. RedBlueGreen93 06:59, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Redirects edit
Kion edit
Kion may also refer to the one from The Lion Guard. So, retarget to KION and add the character to this disambiguation. 176.42.18.33 (talk) 07:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Cyclone Hamoon (2023) edit
- Cyclone Hamoon (2023) → Cyclone Hamoon (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
The previous redirect is unnecessary disambiguation and I wonder how will transposed the main article as "Cyclone Hamoon". I suggest that this redirect should be delete without putting disambiguation as "(2023)" respectively. Icarus58 (talk) 01:52, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Educating edit
Unlikely redirect; currently it's used in only one article (N._Ravichandran). Deleting this redirect would help clean up the lead of Education, by removing a distracting dab hatnote. fgnievinski (talk) 01:20, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as someone searching for "educating" is most likely looking for Education. The redirect receives page views almost every day. Mia Mahey (talk) 02:46, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Wich edit
Having created Wich (disambiguation), I doubt that there is a primary topic of the term, and propose to move the disambiguation page over this redirect. BD2412 T 00:02, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Judging by the relative unnotability compared to the common -wich suffix, the existing page being a redirect to -wich town and keeping the existing hatnote on that page is fine. Just add a note at the top of wich (disambiguation) stating the primary topic. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 07:35, 19 May 2024 (UTC)