Talk:Language policy in Ukraine

Should this be in the article?

Russia is ready help Ukrainian educational institutions to use the potential of the law on the principles of state language policy to the maximum extent. Personally I am not sure to see this as help or as Russian recolonization of Ukraine... But Kyiv Post might have taken the quote out of context... as they have done before... from my point of view... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 20:07, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

The point of the Post-scandal discussions-sub chapter is?

Not sure what the point of this Post-scandal discussions-sub chapter is in the article... There are heated discussion in the studio of Savik Shuster every week. I think this part of the article should be deleted. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 16:43, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Some lawmakers would have been in prison if they had not voted for the bill.... The Ukrainian Week says.

According to The Ukrainian Week’s sources, Party of Regions employed a wide range of tools—including intimidation, threats of criminal liability, tax raids on businesses and other instruments of coercion to get some lawmakers to vote for the Bill "On the principles of the state language policy". Is this info reliable enough to put into the article? — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 17:37, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Why not, with proper attribution, although the "according to our sources" part does not sound too convincing. Ukraine is not North Korea, multiple instances of coercion would be hard to conceal entirely. Or maybe there are some other, more detailed accounts of these events? Alæxis_¿question? 18:59, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Repeal of 2012 Law

There appears to be a lot of confusion in the media and on this page regarding the status of Russian in Ukraine right now.

• The 2012 legislation allowed Russian (and other languages) to be given official status within regions.
• In February 2014 the parliament voted to repeal the 2012 law (which would have removed the status afforded the Russian language)
• The president vetoed the 2014 bill - meaning that things are the same as they were since 2012 - Russian has the status of an official language and has not in any way been outlawed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.153.130.162 (talk) 12:37, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

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A new law on the Ukrainian language

The Ukrainian parliament passed today (4 October 2018) in first reading a new law on the Ukrainian language (a second reading is necessary before making it a law). More information can be found her here (in Ukrainian). — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 21:28, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Can anybody make a part about:

1) what this law implies (cf. this article), including the education language according to the new law, cf. this article, and this

2) the dispute with Hungary? (cf. this, and this) Veverve (talk) 18:02, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

this article explains a lot of what the law implies.Veverve (talk) 02:17, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Title of the 2019 law

Hello, @Veverve, you reverted my edit, but I don't think that "On provision of the functioning of the Ukrainian language as the State language" is the most common translation of the title of the 2019 law. It seems to be used mainly by wikipedia-related sources and sources which might have been influenced by wikipedia (one possible exception: the Russian TASS, here). I'm not a native English speaker, but "provision of the functioning" sounds a bit weird to me - am I wrong? On the other hand, the Venice Commission issued an opinion on that law, which fully qualifies as WP:RS and which can be found here. They use "Ukrainian Law on Supporting the Functioning of the Ukrainian Language as the State Language". That translation has now become widespread: it is used in a resolution by the European Parliament on the implementation of the EU Association Agreement with Ukraine (here) and in various scholarly articles on "Hungarian Cultural Studies", "Foreign Policy Review", and elsewhere (see here). Note that Google translator of the original Ukrainian title is: "On ensuring the functioning of the Ukrainian language as the state language" - so "On supporting the functioning" seems fine to me and much better than "On provision of the functioning". Gitz (talk) (contribs) 13:59, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Section 2 "2012 Law on the Principles of the State Language Policy"

The section is way too long and detailed, and falls within WP:TOOMUCH. I also doubt that it is reliably sourced (where does the 1000 protesters figure stem from? Youtube videos are WP:NOYT) and it most definitely needs proofreading and extensive editing from a native English speaker (I am not). The section lacks essential information about the political situation at the time (the law was proposed by Vadym Kolesnichenko and Serhii Kivalov, but who were they? which political forces supported or opposed the law?) as it is entirely focused on day-by-day political debates and events, without providing any context. No information is given about the content of the law. Somebody should take care of that section: editors with good knowledge of Ukrainian language and politics are welcome. Gitz (talk) (contribs) 00:12, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Historical context

The Ukrainian language was banned in Russian Empire, so it needs some state support to survive. The context should be described. Xx236 (talk) 07:48, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

The world did not begin in 1917.Xx236 (talk) 06:23, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

"In January 2022 Human Rights Watch expressed concerns about protection for minority languages"

What next?Xx236 (talk) 06:24, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Chuhuiv now

https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-russia-recapture-chuhuiv-kharkiv-region-armed-forces-claim-facebook-1685356

Have the activists survived thee shelling?Xx236 (talk) 06:28, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

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