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A non-fan of non-places is prodding some likely-to-be-places. I'll be working on Rice, Oregon. OGN is apparently now considered just a gazetteer, so use moar sources. Others:

• Dant, Oregon
• Fairbanks, Oregon @Tedder
• Kingsley, Oregon
• Whiskey Dick, Oregon (likely just a "funny place name", I haven't checked yep, created by "Blue Bucket Cow Camp" guy)

Happy researching, Valfontis (talk) 04:42, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

I contested Fairbanks but agree with Dant, fwiw. Cracking open "Stations West" and not even finding "Dant" mentioned wasn't exactly an endorsement. tedder (talk) 18:31, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Howdy. I dunno, Dant was created by @Finetooth: and he has pretty good instincts as far as notability. Valfontis (talk) 18:36, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Maybe merge and redir to Oregon Trunk Railroad? Valfontis (talk) 18:39, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Regarding Kingsley, it was demoted to a ghost town, which is fine, but can one link to Google Maps to prove that nothing is there? Seems like WP:OR to me. Said the amateur geographer. I'm also curious, @WeirdNAnnoyed: why Kingsley didn't get a Prod while Rice did. Rice also has a cemetery... Valfontis (talk) 18:46, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Valfontis:, I decided not to PROD Kingsley because I could find far more mentions of it in local newspapers than I could Rice (although most of them were trivial mentions of somebody "of Kingsley" doing something completely unnotable, as small-town newspapers often used to print). If you're aware of more substantial information then by all means add it and remove my PROD. I'm not committed to deleting these articles, I just don't think we should have articles about places where all we can say is its name, location, and when it had a post office. That gets into WP:INDISCRIMINATE territory. But if we can say more, we should keep the articles. BTW, my understanding is Google Maps (or other maps) are fine for proving existence (e.g. the cemetery) but not notability. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 23:19, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

@WeirdNAnnoyed: I created the Dant article about 10 years ago. Although the article's claims are faithful to the sources cited, the claims are thin, and Dant probably fails the notability test. Tedder is correct in saying that Dant is not mentioned in Stations West, which does however include a map of the Oregon Trunk Railway showing the location of a station named Frieda. The station name was changed from Frieda to Dant in honor of the perlite mine guy. All that is of such minor historical interest that deleting the Dant article seems reasonable. Oregon Trunk Railway and Oregon Trunk Railroad both redirect to Spokane, Portland and Seattle Railway, which has only one paragraph about this trunk line. If someone wanted to use the station list in Stations West to expand that paragraph, Dant (Frieda) could rise again as a tiny part of a minor list. Finetooth (talk) 00:00, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

New protest stubs

• 2024 Portland State University pro-Palestinian campus occupation
• 2024 University of Oregon pro-Palestinian campus occupation

--Another Believer _(Talk) 19:54, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Portland Men's Roller Derby

Portland Men's Roller Derby has been nominated for deletion:

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Portland Men's Roller Derby

---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:33, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

I took a run at finding sources, but perhaps not enough. Is it still in existence? Their homepage is now in Korean, maybe? Plus, I feel the need to shower... — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 00:47, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Discussion re: buildings and structures in PDX

See Categories for Discussion: Buildings Downtown Portland, Oregon to discuss possible subcategories for Category:Buildings and structures in Portland, Oregon. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:25, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Kintzing Prichette

He is listed as being a 2 month Governor of Oregon yet he does not appear on the Oregon Governors page. Also the dates for Lane's first term and Gaines' term are inaccurate if we properly add Prichette back in. This needs to be reconciled. Coyotez (talk) 21:41, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Nathan Vasquez (lawyer) at AfD

Nathan Vasquez (lawyer) has been nominated for deletion.

Discussion participation welcome:

• Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nathan Vasquez (lawyer)

--Another Believer _(Talk) 13:48, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Help with expanding draft

Where can I recruit people to help expand a draft I've created?
If you reply here, please ping me. — thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 02:04, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

@TheTechie: What draft are you referring to? – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 07:41, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Capitol Highway << that one, I'm having some trouble finding sources, so some help would be appreciated thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 17:04, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

@Lord Bolingbroke thetechie@enwiki: ~/talk/ $ 17:04, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

​ Capitol Highway currently redirects to Oregon Route 10. Do you think it would make more sense to add info at the target article rather than splitting it into a separate page? In terms of sources, I found some web pages from the City of Portland like [1] and [2]. I also found some news articles about construction and improvements on the road like [3][4][5]. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 07:54, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

As this is mostly a local street rather than a state-maintained highway (and doesn't appear to be on the named highways system), I don't think it will survive AfD, especially on general notability grounds. There are probably plenty of sources in the Oregonian archives, but little to demonstrate notability beyond local coverage. SounderBruce 08:35, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Actually, the Capitol Highway has historical significance as the first highway between the Capitol Library building in Salem and its terminus in Portland. We have a couple of mentions in other WP highway articles:

from Oregon Route 99W#History:

"The first highway in the corridor was the Capitol Highway (Highway 3), from Portland to Salem via Dayton (roughly present OR 99W and OR 221). In 1927 it was merged with the West Side Highway, which ran from Dayton to Junction City, to form the West Side Pacific Highway, still numbered 3, and a western loop of the Pacific Highway (Highway 1/U.S. Route 99). (The former Capitol Highway south of Dayton was removed from the system, but was later taken over as the Salem-Dayton Highway.)"

and Oregon Route 99W#Old alignments:

"The original alignment in southern Portland, bypassed in the 1930s by Barbur Boulevard, is still called Capitol Highway. It begins at the present north end of OR 99W and runs first east, then west, of Highway 1W, eventually merging with OR 10 (formerly the Beaverton-Hillsdale Highway) before ending at Highway 1W south of downtown."

I've added a bit to the draft, but am still sifting through the multiple sources I listed on Draft talk:Capitol Highway. There's even a great historical image here, c. 1920 (presumably public domain): Capitol Highway Approaching Hillsdale from the West

I have yet to find sources that substantiate the text in the Description section, which covers only the remnant of the Capitol Highway still extant in Portland... still looking. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 16:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

This would all be best covered under the OR 99W (or even a spun-off US 99W) article, rather than creating a separate article that will only cover a tiny section of the corridor. Much like how we don't have articles on other short sections of US 99 that were amalgamated to form the original highway. SounderBruce 17:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC)