Talk:Viktor Tsoi

Latest comment: 2 years ago by Ingafube in topic Latvia in 1990

An interesting coincidence

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Cui Jian (born 1961), "father of Chinese rock", is ethnic Korean, and he bears exactly the same surname as that of Tsoi's (hangul: 최, hanja: 崔). Cyon 03:57, 27 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

This is not only a coincidence... and further : the two men had a meeting in Bourges, France, in april 1989.--Bastenaire (talk) 11:46, 24 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

Wikify

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I think that article has wikifyed succesfully. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sidik iz PTU (talkcontribs) 19:54, 30 September 2006


No political intention in the songs!

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I remember an interview on TV shortly after his death, where Tsoi claims that his songs are often misinterpreted in the public and that he usually avoids political intentions in his poetry. In particular, the song "want changes", which was used widely for the perestroika movements, has nothing to do with it, he said. I wish, I could name a source for this interview, so that the political intention in the beginning of the article could be changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.212.168.209 (talkcontribs) 04:47, 8 November 2006

"music listened by drug addicts and hoodlums"

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First and foremost, thank you for the great article! On a side note, drug addicts' existance has been denied and ignored by Soviet media and the state as a whole up until 1986. There were no mention of them anywhere, even in the medical textbooks. Swiftsure0 (talk) 07:00, 26 March 2008 (UTC).Reply

His father

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I've read in several comments at youtube that his father was not a Korean, instead a he was a Chukchi(Asian Eskimos living in Kamchatha, Russia). We need more sources for his father... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.44.200.11 (talk) 18:16, 11 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

I've met his father, He is realy a migrant from the Far-East region of Russia, born as a Korean which means that his parents were from Korea. Tsoi himself had a good knowledge of it and loved their food... People asserting a Chukchi origin are jokers --Bastenaire (talk) 11:51, 24 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

You can write anything on Youtube, but it doesn't mean it is true. We need more sources, but they must be reliable; Youtube for example is by no means a reliable source. Regards.--♫GoP♫TCN 21:00, 26 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

As russian, i can say that there is no such question. He is Korean. Tsoi is russian spelling of korean name - Choi_(Korean_name), which bear many koreans in russia.95.72.151.171 (talk) 15:07, 31 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

Missing info on marriage/love life?

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According to Russian Wikipedia, Viktor and Marianna separated in 1987, though they were never officially divorced, and he became involved with Natalya Razlogova. If true, this is surely important enough to be mentioned in the English article, which currently gives the impression that he and Marianna continued to be a couple. Languagehat (talk) 22:32, 22 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

Great article in Ukrainian Wikipedia

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https://uk.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%A6%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%A0%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87&stable=0#1986_.D1.80.D1.96.D0.BA --Alfashturm (talk) 09:41, 30 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia is not a source, great or otherwise. As such information form this article cannot be included in our one.Slatersteven (talk) 15:01, 17 May 2017 (UTC)Reply
I don't think that's what Alfashturm was saying. Information from foreign language Wikipedias can be very easily translated and used to improve the English language article, as long as the information on the foreign Wikipedia is referenced properly, and those references will need to be transferred as well. That's what I personally often do with a lot of articles on Russian films. It's much easier than independently looking for sources, it gives you a very good idea what the page should look like, and it's generally a huge time saver. AndreyKva (talk) 06:48, 18 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

Reggae? (Boshetunmai)

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As some of you Kinomaniacs (I would say Kinophiles, but that sounds way too much like cynophiles) may know, Tsoi and the band Kino had a brief foray into reggae with the song Boshetunmai on their hit album Gruppa krovi. It's popular and significant enough to have its own article on the Russian Wikipedia. What do you guys think, is this significant enough to warrant adding reggae to Tsoi's list of genres? To my knowledge, this is their only reggae song. AndreyKva (talk) 03:36, 22 May 2017 (UTC)Reply

@AndreyKva:I have a copy of Gruppa Krovi and I do agree "Boshetunmai" sounds like Reggae. To add it to the article, we would need an outside source calling it Reggae, otherwise it's OR. Does the Russian article have a review or other source that calls the song reggae?--Theodore Kloba (talk) 16:22, 14 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

Koryo-saram

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Did Viktor Tsoi identify himself as Koryo-saram? I notice that this was recently removed from the lead, though it remains in the description of his father. Also, is there really a need to keep the piped link [[Koryo-saram|Soviet-Korean]]? Why not just add a brief parenthetic definition of Koryo-saram the first time it occurs?--Theodore Kloba (talk) 16:42, 14 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Latvia in 1990

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The infobox gives the place of death a Latvia with the modern Latvian flag. Tsoi died in the Latvian SSR. There has been some back-and-forth editing of Latvia–Latvian SSR, so the implementation of the policy WP:NCGN should be clarified: specifically "Older names should be used in appropriate historical contexts" (WP:MPN) and use "a historical name when discussing a past period". It is not an endorsement of the USSR to avoid anachronism: Tsoi should be mentioned as dying in the USSR. It's a shame he didn't live to see its demise. Ingafube (talk) 16:27, 15 June 2022 (UTC)Reply