Talk:Vietnamese people

Latest comment: 2 days ago by 2601:207:200:464D:6451:CCF5:7D29:44BB in topic The article name should be changed to either Ethnic Vietnamese or Kinh people


Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2022

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"The Vietnamese people (Vietnamese: người Việt, lit. 'Viet people') or Kinh people (Vietnamese: người Kinh) are a Southeast Asian ethnic group originally native to modern-day Northern Vietnam and Southern China. The native language is Vietnamese, the most widely spoken Austroasiatic language. Its vocabulary was influenced by Chinese early on. During the French colonial era, French was an official language in Vietnam. Afterwards, the Vietnamese language codified in the Latin alphabet emerged. Vietnamese Kinh people account for just over 85.32% of the population of Vietnam in the 2019 census, and are officially known as Kinh people (người Kinh) to distinguish them from the other minority groups residing in the country such as the Hmong, Cham or Muong. The Vietnamese are one of the four main groups of Vietic speakers in Vietnam, the others being the Muong, Thổ and Chứt people. They are related to the Gin or the Jing people, a Vietnamese ethnic group in China."

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"The Vietnamese people (Vietnamese: người Việt, lit. 'Viet people') or Kinh people (Vietnamese: người Kinh) are a Southeast Asian ethnic group originally native to modern-day North Vietnam and South China. The native language is Vietnamese. Vietnamese Kinh people account for just over 85.32% of the population of Vietnam in the 2019 census, and are officially known as Kinh people (người Kinh) to distinguish them from the other highly related minority groups residing in the country such as the Muong or Chams. The Vietnamese are one of the four main groups of Vietic speakers in Vietnam, the others being the Muong, Thổ and Chứt people." LawfulGood1 (talk) 13:58, 28 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

  Not done for now: Why? ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:04, 28 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

Remove/alter the genetics part of the article

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There are several changes I want to request and this will involve a consensus first, but most of it will involve deletion rather then changing it. First of all, the "DNA and genetics analysis" component of the article is excessive and creepy. Most of it should be removed, especially the excessive and creepy genetics data that tells zero conclusions, such as the "Genome Sequencing" section, which is just a chockful of unreadable data and numbers that don't belong on Wikipedia, but on an Excel sheet. Second of all, the number of Vietnamese people derived from the illegal practice of "selling" Vietnamese women to failed Taiwanese men and failed South Korean men should be removed. The number of Vietnamese people should be altered to reflect Vietnamese people who are legally there (workers and students for example) and not from the illegal selling of Vietnamese women. Wikipedians may think Taiwan is a country but Taiwan belongs with Mainland China. It should reflect the reality that in fact, South Korea and Taiwan are oppressing the Vietnamese. 203.166.241.41 (talk) 00:00, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

  Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:14, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Reply
Okay I will remove the edit request and then wait for consensus and put that edit request back in or someone with necessary privileges can change it for me. Thank you for your time. 203.166.241.41 (talk) 00:27, 9 August 2022 (UTC)Reply
There has not been consensus yet due to lack of participants. Can this please be done? I'm putting the edit request back up. I'm not sure if I have done this correctly but here it goes again. 118.211.76.187 (talk) 19:46, 3 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
To establish a consensus, try asking for comment on one of the relevant wikiproject pages, for example Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ethnic_groups. Of the universe (talk) 17:22, 4 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
The IP is correct. The material was a huge violation of WP:FRINGE. I have excised it. jps (talk) 18:42, 26 December 2022 (UTC) jps (talk) 18:42, 26 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

Adding about Vietnamese population in Indonesia

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Please, add about Vietnamese in Indonesia. So, Laura Basuki is Vietnamese-Chinese-Germany-Indonesian descents. Hariman Muhammad (talk) 16:34, 6 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Fortnite

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There has not been consensus yet due to lack of participants. Can this please be done? I'm putting the edit request back up. I'm not sure if I have done this correctly but here it goes again. 118.211.76.187 (talk) 19:46, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply] To establish a consensus, try asking for comment on one of the relevant wikiproject pages, for example Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ethnic_groups. Of the universe (talk) 17:22, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply] 2600:8807:4D0A:E500:812F:E406:E541:271C (talk) 02:39, 14 January 2023 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 5 May 2023

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Vietnamese is the name for all ethics in Vietnam. The Vietnamese in this page only included the Kinh people, the most populated ethic race in Vietnam. I wish to give more details about the Vietnamese people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LordChimera (talkcontribs) 12:32, 5 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

@LordChimera Please provide a source for your claim. DHN (talk) 14:09, 5 May 2023 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected edit request on 23 July 2023

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in the sentence: Any attempt of identify an ethnic group in ancient Vietnam is problematic and inaccurate.[90]

change the word "of" to "to" so the English is correct. Manhtuannguyen22 (talk) 02:36, 23 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

  Done RudolfRed (talk) 03:03, 23 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Wiki Education assignment: Gender, Race and Computing

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  This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 25 September 2023 and 15 December 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): NavyBear314 (article contribs). Peer reviewers: HelloWorld194, Jut008, Gaquach.

— Assignment last updated by Jut008 (talk) 18:54, 21 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

The article name should be changed to either Ethnic Vietnamese or Kinh people

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Per Vietnamese government officials–Vietnamese people are citizens of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam–while the ethnic Vietnamese are official recognized as "ethnic Kinh" but not "Vietnamese" which reserved for all people of Vietnam. (Dân tộc Kinh (nhandan.vn)). Origins and the usage of the ethnonym Kinh as discussed in the article were much older, pervasive, and deep-rooted in medieval history.

- Change to Ethnic Vietnamese helps readers to acknowledge the cultural and ethnic diversity of Vietnam, to ease recognition of the difference between Vietnamese people and ethnic Vietnamese/Kinh; and to avoid the fallacious lumping of other identities into one.

- Change to Kinh people further conforms with official government usage and helps readers to gain acquaintance. 2601:207:200:464D:6451:CCF5:7D29:44BB (talk) 22:47, 14 June 2024 (UTC)Reply