Talk:The Diamonds

Latest comment: 2 years ago by 2604:2D80:EC0D:B900:30FD:D3AD:EB09:2588 in topic Christmas concert arizona

Citations & References

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See Wikipedia:Footnotes for an explanation of how to generate footnotes using the <ref(erences/)> tags Nhl4hamilton (talk) 04:33, 1 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

WOW

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Y is it that WIKI tagers like to see refs. for every sentence... All these tagers are making WIKI look invalid ...I wish they would help rather then tag everything all over. WIKI in the past few years has had an influx of people who just add Tags and banners instead of fixing this .. 99.246.128.164 (talk) 18:08, 20 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Black group?

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I don't see the relevance of the sentence about black groups not being played on white-owned radio stations. The Diamonds were a white group (though I, like probably many others, thought they were black until I saw this performance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI_LVtatBsU. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kansachusetts (talkcontribs) 17:14, 10 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

The relevance lies in this: Black music lies at the core of American popular music, including country and western, but black performers were in those days frequently excused from appearing leaving room for white artists to perform music created by black artists.
The Diamonds started as a very hip white group like the Four Freshmen and the Hi-Los. As a lark, they started performing "Little Darling", originally by the black Gladiolas as a joke encore, turning the passion of the black performance into a startling novelty song. In the long run, performers like The Diamonds, Pat Boone, and Georgia Gibbs promoted black music to white America, thanks guys, but in the short run they were profiting from prejudice. I think what I wrote for this article is eminently fair, "They were most noted for interpreting and introducing rhythm and blues vocal group music to the wider pop music audience." It doesn't suggest prejudice on their part and they *were* good singers so no accusations of stealing from black people, but all the way back to Blackface minstrel days this has been happening, which is why it is relevant. Best wishes, Ortolan88 (talk) 22:37, 12 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

First paragraph

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Currently (Feb. 11, 2013), this is the first paragraph: "Canadian Jim Malone replaced Dave Sommerville as lead singer and sang with the group for 9 years. Jim was a talented impersonator as well as having a beautiful baritone. He and Evan Fisher left the group and formed "Fisher & Malone" This is all documented on the official website of the Diamonds." This shouldn't be the first sentence, but I don't know where it would fit best (or even if it belongs in the article). Jim Malone isn't listed as a current or former member. Who is he? Is he still with the group or did he leave?Jtyroler (talk) 00:17, 12 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

It certainly shouldn't be the first paragraph! There's lots of material in the article on this, original members, replacement members, lots of detail. I am moving this down to the replacement section. I may leave it commented out because I am not an expert on The Diamonds. This material is typical of completeness that people expect from Wikipedia, but floating around above the first real paragraph. Ortolan88 (talk) 22:41, 12 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Expert needed to get personnel straight

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Someone familiar with the ins and outs of The Diamonds needs to go over all the personnel listings. The article does not match the infobox and I may have made it worse by trying to fix the problem discussed above. Ortolan88 (talk) 22:50, 12 February 2013 (UTC)Reply

Question about one of the Diamonds

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Was Tom Hanks father a member of the Diamonds? I received an article that said as much but was later told it was a hoax. Thank you for any help with this matter Soupyusa@rainierconnect.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:603:100:D972:2D1E:527B:772D:7C81 (talk) 23:32, 27 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

Christmas concert arizona

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Great concert but disappointed not one religious song was sung. 2604:2D80:EC0D:B900:30FD:D3AD:EB09:2588 (talk) 01:01, 20 December 2021 (UTC)Reply