Talk:Parasitism/GA2
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Reviewer: Iztwoz (talk · contribs) 17:52, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
I am happy to review this article - it is quite long and I am quite new (very new) to this so hopefully there is no urgency.--Iztwoz (talk) 17:52, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- Many thanks for taking it on. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:07, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
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Hope you don't mind if I split the following, as there are multiple points here.
and can cause problems for larger animals including anemia and hypersensitivities.
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- Why not simply - These are microorganisms
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- Why not use intracellular - intercellular is used in previous section
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- Suggest incorporating last para info on vector transmission to Vector-transmitted section - as it is the blood feeding aspect is notably absent there
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- just to say will be back tomorrow
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Hi Chiswick chap - re sections on Directly transmitted Trophically transmitted and vector transmitted - the info is not as ref given (Poulin). For example the ref to directly transmitted parasites (unlike section) includes endoparasites and the definition is of one parasite one host and excludes fleas....this seems to be confused elsewhere with the refs to ectoparasites. Most sources define ectoparasites as living on the host so excludes mosquitoes, vampire bats etc...these are classed as micropredators which are defined in most sources as those that live intermittently on a host and using many hosts to feed off... Tropical transmitted as two or more hosts.....they mature and reproduce in the def host
I'll just expand some on this - the whole paragraph needs redoing:
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- Should the sentence on Tetramorium be separated to the intraspecific part. Or maybe adjust by adding either interspecific or intraspecific in first sentence
- Added 'interspecific'.
- Since sibling parasitism is more readily understood than adelpho- would place that as the first choice and just aka adelpho without extras such as brother - adelphos is brother and adelphis is sister and both are relevant so easier just to use sibling.
- Adelphoparasite is the technical term. It isn't up to us to create terms. It is in any case an etymological fallacy to suppose that there is a connection between modern zoological usage and what a component word meant in Ancient Greece. As for the sister thing, the term was certainly chosen for the -os ending. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:21, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
- It was my fault for trying to explain the term in the first place by adding 'brother' - and since adelphos and adelphis are different genders of the same word, adelpho not adelphos is the covering name. And this is not referred to as such as far as i can see - one ref explains it using 'kin' and is used in contrast to alloparasite. And many more choosing sibling instead. The source you used refers to adelphohyperparasite which really makes a lot more sense and it might be better placed in the hyperparasite section.
- There are hundreds of scholarly sources available for adelphoparasite. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:31, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for your other helpful edits--Iztwoz (talk) 17:24, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
- Many thanks.
- It was my fault for trying to explain the term in the first place by adding 'brother' - and since adelphos and adelphis are different genders of the same word, adelpho not adelphos is the covering name. And this is not referred to as such as far as i can see - one ref explains it using 'kin' and is used in contrast to alloparasite. And many more choosing sibling instead. The source you used refers to adelphohyperparasite which really makes a lot more sense and it might be better placed in the hyperparasite section.
- Adelphoparasite is the technical term. It isn't up to us to create terms. It is in any case an etymological fallacy to suppose that there is a connection between modern zoological usage and what a component word meant in Ancient Greece. As for the sister thing, the term was certainly chosen for the -os ending. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:21, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
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There has been a lot of extra work put into the article and I am confident that the article more than meets all the Good article criteria. The level of prose and comprehensiveness is impressive. The only comment I would add for future improvement is that it might benefit from a little more explanation of terms, or more detail of some of the many interesting items. Been a pleasure.--Iztwoz (talk) 18:16, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for a comprehensive and careful review. Polishing will continue! Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:58, 17 April 2018 (UTC)