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Discussion about fame from VfD:

    • Delete - "famous"? Name the largest shopping mall in Idaho. Name the smallest shopping mall in Kansas. Can't? Then it isn't famous. Name the actor from "The Terminator" who is now governor of California. You know that one? That's because he is famous. - Texture 16:10, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)
      • Name the person who directed Chasing Amy. Name a town located in Shimomashiki District, Kumamoto, Japan. Name a grammar similar to the Hebrew grammar. Name the capital of Belize's Cayo District. Name the largest Autonomous University of the University of the Philippines System. Do I need to go on? Surely even if you're going to require fame that fame need only be a limited fame. Requiring the average person to have heard of every topic in wikipedia would eliminate 95% of it. Anthony DiPierro 16:30, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)
        • Kevin Smith. I liked that movie. You are mixing fame and encycopedic information. Anything can be one, the other, or both. Your vote said "famous" indicating that people would know it. Grammar, capitals, and universities are informative and you can even argue that shopping malls are usefully informative (although I disagree) but you said "famous" so I responded to your claim to fame. Start a new discussion of the "encyclopedic useful information" of the mall on its talk page sinced we are taking up too much space here on "fame". - Texture 16:38, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)
        • That's great, you got 1 out of 5 (selected from "random page"). The shopping center is famous, within its town. It's not famous worldwide, but very few things are. The vast majority of the population has never heard of Kevin Smith. That doesn't mean he's not famous. If you're going to use fame as a criterium for deletion (which this nomination suggests), then clearly you have to accept fame which is limited. Anthony DiPierro 16:46, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)
          • I had no intention of responding to informative entries. You say all MALLS ARE FAMOUS and they are not - you would do better to argue that it is informative and should be kept. - Texture 16:54, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)
          • Yes, I say all malls are famous, and I'm sticking by that. You, on the other hand, have said absolutely nothing as to why this should be kept or deleted. Anthony DiPierro 16:59, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)
            • Since you missed it I will say it now. All malls are not famous. This mall is not famous. It is merely a shopping mall. You don't have to agree. We both get to have our opinions. Your blanket statement "malls are famous" is incorrect since there are many malls with no fame. - Texture 17:05, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)
        • Hold it, hold it. Malls are famous within the localities they preside in. Malls change the face of urban development within many cities because hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people visit any given mall annually. I'd say, if nothing else, malls are just as important as listing things like skyscrapers, which are no more famous, except for one additional attribute: being tall. RadicalBender 20:48, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)
    • Out of curiousity, why is this discussion here and also in VfD? Keep. It fits completely in Wikipedia's comprehensive format. I've been adding information on interstate highway spur routes. Surely they are as relevant as a major regional shopping mall. As someone else always says, "Wikipedia is not paper." There's room for this entry here. Moncrief, 3 Mar 2004


I'm responsible for initiating this article. If you look at the article on shopping center, there are other malls listed with articles.

Automatic doors

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The mall is so enormous, that at each entrance, the automatic doors continuously play audio reminders of which entrance one used (in both English and Spanish).

How does this work? How does the door "know" which entrance a particular shopper used? (Reminds me of the Heart of Gold, actually...)

The use of this audio service has been rare in recent times.

Then isn't it a bit misleading to say that the doors play the audio "continuously"? Loganberry (Talk) 01:24, 29 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Fair use rationale for Image:Ontario mills logo.gif

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