Talk:2026 FIFA World Cup
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editThere are three new logos that were unveiled during the schedule release. They have stylized elements of their flag (Canada red and with a maple leaf, Mexico green with an eagle, and the United States blue with stars and stripes) Can we try and include them? 47.153.148.108 (talk) 23:34, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
Lint errors in map caption
edit@Jonesey95: You mentioned in a recent edit summary that the previous version of the map caption contained lint errors. Could you explain in layman's terms what this means, and perhaps suggest an alternative solution? I dislike how the "Central Region" column takes up space that the other two columns could have instead to fit "San Francisco Bay Area" and "New York/New Jersey" on a single line. — AFC Vixen 🦊 08:46, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- The {{nobreak}} template uses
<span>...</span>
tags to mark an in-line piece of content, like a few words, as "do not wrap this text". In HTML, span tags are not allowed to wrap around "block" content, which is content that extends across multiple lines or that contains div tags. In my edit, I removed the nobreak template where it was wrapping div-tag-based content. If you want to use nobreak/nowrap, it needs to wrap only a short piece of text. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:32, 22 February 2024 (UTC)- I also removed the font-size specification, per MOS:FONTSIZE. Fonts can't be rendered at less than 85% of the default text size for the page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:34, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- I've been toying around with the {{Div col}} that was added, and this was the best replica of the previous {{col-begin}}-based caption I could make for now (right). I made use of a single {{Ubl}} instead of three, and strategically placed non-breaking spaces to produce blank rows that help populate the columns in the exact same way they were before. Does this produce any errors? If not, is there any way to customise the width of one particular column? If there isn't, is there any alternate way "2 San Francisco Bay Area" and "14 New York/New Jersey" can be forced to appear on one line without using {{nobreak}} and producing an error? — AFC Vixen 🦊 19:24, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Jonesey95: When you removed the
<div>...</div>
tags, would that not have solved the problem with the {{nobreak}}? Or does the Linter error still exist with {{col-begin}}/{{col-break}}/{{col-end}} or {{Div col}}/{{Div col end}}? — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 17:34, 23 February 2024 (UTC)- The problem was that {{nobreak}} was wrapping Module:overlay, which uses div tags. – Jonesey95 (talk) 07:04, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- Do you have any answers to the questions I had, or no? — AFC Vixen 🦊 11:56, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- I will answer this. {{div col}} also uses div tags, as does {{col begin}}. I suspect the usage of these templates will produce the same errors Jonesey had mentioned. Jalen Folf (talk) 15:10, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- For the time being then, if there really isn't a way to customise the widths of individual columns in {{Div col}}, then I'll simply truncate "San Francisco Bay Area" to simply "San Francisco" and "New York/New Jersey" to "New York". — AFC Vixen 🦊 15:19, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- If I understand Jonesey correctly,
<span/>
can exist within<div/>
without any errors, but the issue is templates and modules that use<div/>
can't exist within<span/>
without throwing errors. I wonder if using Module:Overlay is required in the map legend, or if we can use {{bgcolor}} (which uses<span/>
tags), e.g.{{nobreak|'''{{bgcolor|#b2decf| 2 }}''' [[San Francisco Bay Area]]}}
to produce 2 San Francisco Bay Area. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 17:45, 24 February 2024 (UTC) - UPDATE: I have created a map legend at my sandbox that may work, but it requires widening the map to at least 400px. I have legends of 400px, 410px, and 420px there. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 18:32, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- If I understand Jonesey correctly,
- For the time being then, if there really isn't a way to customise the widths of individual columns in {{Div col}}, then I'll simply truncate "San Francisco Bay Area" to simply "San Francisco" and "New York/New Jersey" to "New York". — AFC Vixen 🦊 15:19, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- I will answer this. {{div col}} also uses div tags, as does {{col begin}}. I suspect the usage of these templates will produce the same errors Jonesey had mentioned. Jalen Folf (talk) 15:10, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- Do you have any answers to the questions I had, or no? — AFC Vixen 🦊 11:56, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- The problem was that {{nobreak}} was wrapping Module:overlay, which uses div tags. – Jonesey95 (talk) 07:04, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Jonesey95: When you removed the
I think the current setup with the truncated names is fine, especially if it means we can keep the map as small as reasonably possible at its 340px width. — AFC Vixen 🦊 18:38, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
- I understand the concerns about map size. Reducing font size to 85% allows for 340px. See over there. → — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 17:17, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'd be somewhat okay with this. However, Jonesey, you implied in one of your edit summaries how use of templates like {{col-3}} in Jkudlick's example on the right are "
generally not recommended
". I'd like to know what informed this opinion. — AFC Vixen 🦊 17:29, 25 February 2024 (UTC)- Pinging Jonesey95. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 17:45, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- My recollection is that using a fixed number of columns is less compatible with accessibility, varying screen widths and font sizes, or both, but I am unable to locate that guidance now. I could be misremembering, or something might have changed. Meanwhile, reducing the font size as shown immediately above is not allowed per MOS:SMALLFONT; it reduces the font size to 76% of the default font size for the page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:17, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Jonesey95: I would think three explicit columns would be acceptable in this particular scenario, as the venues are split into three geographical regions. However, I misunderstood SMALLFONT and understand the resulting text in my revision here is not allowed in an article. I have to concur with AFC Vixen that what we currently have in the article is the best compromise that is in compliance with MOS and other guidelines. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 02:53, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- My recollection is that using a fixed number of columns is less compatible with accessibility, varying screen widths and font sizes, or both, but I am unable to locate that guidance now. I could be misremembering, or something might have changed. Meanwhile, reducing the font size as shown immediately above is not allowed per MOS:SMALLFONT; it reduces the font size to 76% of the default font size for the page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:17, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
- Pinging Jonesey95. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 17:45, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'd be somewhat okay with this. However, Jonesey, you implied in one of your edit summaries how use of templates like {{col-3}} in Jkudlick's example on the right are "
Distribution of third place teams in knockout round
editHas there been any announcement from FIFA how the third place teams who qualify for the knockout round will be distributed? There are 495 different combinations of teams who could qualify ( ), which would make for an extremely complicated or lengthy distribution matrix. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 16:25, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
French language in infobox
editI attempted to remove the French translation from the infobox, as the event will only be held in Anglophone regions of Canada (namely Toronto and Vancouver) only to be reverted by @Jkudlick: under the reasoning that "French is one of the official languages of Canada". It is not standard for English Wikipedia to provide French translations of the names of sporting events in Anglophone regions of Canada- e.g. Quebec City Marathon contains a French translation but Vancouver Marathon does not contain a French translation. For this reason I don't see any reason why the French language should be included here. Chessrat (talk, contributions) 20:32, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- It is standard for the WP:FOOTY project to provide translations of major tournament names in English and in all official languages of the host nation(s). Your argument that Vancouver Marathon does not include a French translation does not take into consideration that WP:Some stuff exists for a reason. In other words, where there is precedent, it should be followed unless there is a convincing reason to do so. Not including French ignores that a significant portion of the Canadian population not only speaks French, but does not speak English. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 02:36, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, not sure what the problem could be here. Canada is officially bi-lingual and the bid for the competition was done at the country level (United 2026 FIFA World Cup bid), not at the province level. --McSly (talk) 03:23, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- All Canadian soccer competitions have French even if Quebec and New Brunswick do not host matches. 159.115.9.43 (talk) 18:52, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
New venues table and gallery
editHost City | Venue | Location | Capacity | |
---|---|---|---|---|
Nom | Bid | |||
Mexico City | Estadio Azteca | Coyoacán, MX | 87,523 | 87,523 |
New York/New Jersey | MetLife Stadium† | East Rutherford, NJ | 82,500 | 87,157 |
Dallas | AT&T Stadium† | Arlington, TX | 80,000 | 92,967 |
Kansas City | Arrowhead Stadium† | Kansas City, MO | 76,416 | 76,640 |
Houston | NRG Stadium† | Houston, TX | 72,220 | 80,000 |
Atlanta | Mercedes-Benz Stadium† | Atlanta, GA | 71,000 | 75,000 |
Los Angeles | SoFi Stadium† | Inglewood, CA | 70,240 | 70,240 |
Philadelphia | Lincoln Financial Field† | Philadelphia, PA | 69,796 | 69,328 |
Seattle | Lumen Field† | SoDo, WA | 69,000 | 69,000 |
San Francisco Bay Area | Levi's Stadium† | Santa Clara, CA | 68,500 | 70,909 |
Boston | Gillette Stadium† | Foxborough, MA | 65,878 | 70,000 |
Miami | Hard Rock Stadium† | Miami Gardens, FL | 64,767 | 67,518 |
Vancouver | BC Place | Vancouver, BC | 54,500 | 54,500 |
Monterrey | Estadio BBVA† | Guadalupe, NL | 53,500 | 53,463 |
Guadalajara | Estadio Akron† | Zapopan, JA | 49,850 | 48,071 |
Toronto | BMO Field† | Exhibition Place, ON | 45,736 | 45,736 |
- † Venue will be known by its host city name during the tournament, e.g. MetLife Stadium as "New York/New Jersey Stadium", Levi's Stadium as "San Francisco Bay Area Stadium", and Estadio BBVA as "Estadio Monterrey".
I'd like to present this concept that may be an acceptable compromise between editors who are keen on preserving a gallery of photographs of all the venues, and editors such as myself who'd rather an accessible table with clear rows and columns of sortable data. I was recently made aware of the "sildeshow" gallery mode which presents images in a carousel. Here, I've applied such a gallery in a way that compliments a table of host cities, venues, locations, and capacities. It significantly reduces the size of the section, while making the information easier to parse and the photographs more legible. Thoughts? — AFC Vixen 🦊 13:26, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Training sites
editFIFA released possible training sites and hotels yesterday, so wondering if we could add them in.[1]
Training site | Hotel |
---|---|
Atlanta United Training Centre, Marietta | JW Marriott Atlanta Buckhead, Atlanta |
Kennesaw State University, Kennesaw | InterContinental Buckhead Atlanta, Atlanta |
Baylor School, Chattanooga | The Read House Hotel, Chattanooga |
FC Cincinnati, Cincinnati | To be confirmed |
Dallas Baptist University, Dallas | Westin Dallas Downtown, Dallas |
FC Dallas Stadium, Frisco | Renaissance Dallas at Plano Legacy West, Plano |
University of Dallas, Irving | Omni Las Colinas Hotel, Irving |
Texas Christian University, Fort Worth | Sheraton Fort Worth Downtown Hotel, Fort Worth |
Lambeau Field, Green Bay | Lodge Kohler, Green Bay |
Chivas Verde Valle, Zapopan | Hard Rock Hotel Guadalajara, Zapopan |
Grand Park Sports Campus, Westfield | Renaissance Indianapolis North Hotel, Carmel |
Orange County Great Park, Irvine | Marriott Irvine Spectrum, Irvine |
KC Current Training Facility, Riverside | Hotel Kansas City – The Unbound Collection by Hyatt, Kansas City |
Sporting KC Training Centre, Kansas City | Sheraton Overland Park Hotel at the Convention Center, Overland Park |
University of Kansas, Lawrence | Stonehill Lawrence, Trademark Collection by Wyndham, Lawrence |
Louisville City FC, Louisville | Omni Louisville Hotel, Louisville |
Centro de Alto Rendimiento, Mexico City | On-site accommodation, Mexico City |
La Nueva Casa del Futbol - Toluca, Toluca | DoubleTree by Hilton Toluca, Toluca |
Rayados Training Centre, Monterrey | The Westin Monterrey Valle, San Pedro Garza García |
Philadelphia Union Stadium, Chester | Hotel Du Pont, Wilmington |
Saint Louis University, St. Louis | Magnolia Hotel St. Louis, St. Louis |
RSL Training Centre, Herriman | RSL Training Academy Residence, Herriman |
University of Utah, Salt Lake City | Hyatt Regency Salt Lake City, Salt Lake City |
San Antonio Stadium, San Antonio | Kimpton Santo Hotel, San Antonio |
47.153.166.177 (talk) 00:19, 14 June 2024 (UTC)