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Cannabis and sportsEdit

New stub: Cannabis and sports. Any project members care to help expand? ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:00, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Israli paralympic female competitor Michal Escapa (IPC profile) is also a swimmer?Edit

How many chances are there that another woman named Escapa has always competed in Tokyo 1964 but for Italy and winning two medals in swimming? --Kasper2006 (talk) 10:59, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Categorization of swimmingEdit

Swimming was previously categorized under bathing, which itself was categorized under Leisure Activities. I changed the category directly to leisure activities, since swimming is generally defined by propulsion of an organism through the water, while bathing focuses more on washing and hygiene. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ysaywho7 (talkcontribs) 05:10, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Stefan Mitrović#Requested move 26 December 2021Edit

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Stefan Mitrović#Requested move 26 December 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ( ) 17:20, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Proposed changes to NSPORTS at Village PumpEdit

Your input, one way or the other, on several pending proposals to alter NSPORTS would be welcomed. These proposals are as follows:

  • Subproposal 1: Requires "all athlete biographies must demonstrate GNG when notability is challenged at AfD" and that "SIGCOV in multiple secondary, independent reliable sources would have to be produced during the course of an AfD". Also potential limitations/exceptions.
  • Subproposal 3: "Remove all simple or mere 'participation' criteria in NSPORT, outside of ones related to Olympics and equivalent events."
  • Subproposal 4: "Modify all provisions of NSPORTS that provide that participation in 'one' game/match such that the minimum participation level is increased to 'three' games/matches. This raises the threshold for the presumption of notability to kick in."
  • Subproposal 5: "Implement a requirement that all sports biographies and sports season/team articles must, from inception, include at least one example of actual WP:SIGCOV from a reliable, independent source. Mere database entries would be insufficient for creation of a new biography article."
  • Subproposal 6: "Conditional on Subproposal 6 passing, should a prod-variant be created, applicable to the articles covered by Subproposal 5, that would require the addition of one reference containing significant coverage to challenge the notice."
  • Subproposal 8: "Rewrite the introduction to clearly state that GNG is the applicable guideline, and articles may not be created or kept unless they meet GNG." Further: "Replace all instances of 'presumed to be notable' with 'significant coverage is likely to exist.'
  • Subproposal 9: Strike, as allegedly confusing and/or at odds with other parts of NSPORTS, the following sentence from the lead: "The article should provide reliable sources showing that the subject meets the general notability guideline or the sport specific criteria set forth below."
  • Subproposal 10: "Require each project that has inclusion criteria based on participation in a league ... within the next 30 days to justify the inclusion of each league. Such justification must include actual 'random' (truly random) sampling showing that 90%-plus of the players in each league receive sufficient SIGCOV to pass GNG. At the end of 30 days, any league as to which the data has not been provided must be stricken from NSPORTS." Cbl62 (talk) 09:43, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Lilian Staugaard at AfDEdit

Hi. Please see this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 18:15, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Per WP:APPNOTE - "The talk page or noticeboard of one or more WikiProjects" and "the user can always find out more by clicking on the link to the discussion".

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sports has an RFCEdit


Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sports has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:21, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sourcesEdit

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

  • John Smith "Article of things" Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[ Article of things]" ''''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

AfD for West London Penguin Water Polo and Swimming ClubEdit

Here is an AfD discussion for West London Penguin Swimming and Water Polo Club which may be of interest to this WikiProject:

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/West London Penguin Swimming and Water Polo Club

Cielquiparle (talk) 15:52, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Kelly HeckingEdit

Could use some help finding independent sources for Kelly Hecking.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:43, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Here's a clipping from The Record in 2000. Cielquiparle (talk) 22:23, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Artistic swimming at the 2014 Asian Games#Requested move 30 May 2022Edit

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Artistic swimming at the 2014 Asian Games#Requested move 30 May 2022 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {CX}) 20:20, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Record helpEdit

I am trying to determine when Emma Reaney's ACC record 200y IM time (1:54.92) was beaten. I was hoping someone had a subscription to the MeetMobile app or some other way to check some times for me. Reaney set the ACC record in the 2014 ACC championship. By December 2, 2016 UVA's Kaitlyn Jones had posted a 1:54.05. I am wondering when and by whom Reaney's record was broken. I would like to see (2015 & 2016) ACC Championship meet results which would show the ACC record at the time of the meet. I know her ACC Championships record stood until 2017 when Alexia Zevnik broke it, but the conference record fell earier.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:16, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Medals in the infoboxEdit

After seeing Olivia Smoliga's infobox with NCAA championships, I added that content to Emma Reaney's infobox. I have also been working on Kelly Hecking's article. I am wondering if I could put YMCA Nationals (SC & LC) in the medals in the infobox. Hecking has 3 career 1sts (LC), 4 2nds (SC) and 2 3rds (SC). I posted at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Sports#Medals_sections_of_infoboxes, but no response.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:24, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

I got no response here. I did get a response at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Infoboxes#Medals_element_in_infoboxes, so if you have further comments, comment there.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:01, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Semifinals (swimming)Edit

Hi! Don't you think we should have 1 wikitable for semis just like for heats. a random article. The sources used also have only 1 table, which makes it more clear who advanced with time. It would probably also avoid such mistakes as currently in Singapore article:

Athlete Event Heat Semifinal Final
Time Rank Time Rank Time Rank
Teong Tzen Wei 50 metre butterfly 23.51 14 Q 23.03 4 Q 23.29 8

While it should be

Athlete Event Heat Semifinal Final
Time Rank Time Rank Time Rank
Teong Tzen Wei 50 metre butterfly 23.51 14 Q 23.03 7 Q 23.29 8

--Pelmeen10 (talk) 14:27, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

@Pelmeen10: Hmm, never thought about that but not a bad idea. Just went on with how it was done the last few editions. Kante4 (talk) 14:40, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
Used it today, let's see if someone disagrees. Kante4 (talk) 16:39, 20 June 2022 (UTC)