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I'm somewhat at a loss for a good image for this task force, so I've used a bust of Thucydides ( ) for the time being. If anyone has any better ideas, please feel free to change it. Kirill Lokshin 01:44, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Scope
From my post at Military Science tf: "I think of technology and engineering as physical manifestation (all articles referring to tangible items and places), this task force as technique, theory and development (those articles which refer to most intangibles, substance of history and new classes of tangibles), and the historiography group as military journalism and controversy (article about recording history and meta history, humanizing, and noting anomaly, all tangible or no)." Discussion, disagreement, drawn blades? BusterD 01:34, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
- Replied here to avoid fragmenting the discussion over three pages. Kirill Lokshin 01:41, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Blunders, mistakes and human factors
I've always had an interest in military SNAFUs, and I'd like to do an article series on them.1 One article would be about occurrences in combat where human decisions lead to needlessly avoidable defeat and/or loss. Flight 19, Battle of the River Plate, and the 507th Maintenance Company's wrong turn toward Nasiriyah in 2003 would be some examples. The second would be about combat command generals/admirals, MacArthur's misperception of China's reaction to his drive toward the Yalu River or LBJ's irrational meddling with Air Force/Navy/Marine flight operations during the Vietnam War. The last would be about snafus in the highest levels, for instance the office war about the M2 Bradley. I realize these examples were for the most part American examples, they are merely what I could remember off the top of my head and I'm interested in the screw ups of all militaries. (1I need to be clear I'm not saying the articles need to have SNAFU in the name, human factors or issues would be better.) Anynobody 22:04, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Battles of macrohistorical importance involving invasions of Europe GA Sweeps Review: On Hold
As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria. I'm specifically going over all of the "Conflicts, battles and military exercises" articles and just reviewed Battles of macrohistorical importance involving invasions of Europe. I believe the article currently meets the majority of the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues considering sourcing that should be addressed, and I'll leave the article on hold for seven days for them to be fixed. I am leaving this message at this task force, along with the other relevant task forces to the article, since the article falls under this topic and figured you might be interested in helping to improve the article further. The article needs some more inline citations, an expanded lead, and uniform inline citation formatting. If added, I'll pass the article. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page, and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Nehrams2020 00:13, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
New article stub Military historiography created
Please expand. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 17:36, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
The article on the above subject was recently called to my attention on the basis of the numerous quotations included, and whether those quotations violated neutrality. I have subsequently added a bit more biographical information to the article. I would however welcome any input on whether the existing quotations, included in the "Controversy" section, might be receiving undue weight. Anyone interested is encouraged in responding at Talk:Arthur Bryant#POV. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 18:03, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme
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Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Military historiography
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Nominations open for the Military history WikiProject coordinator election
The Military history WikiProject coordinator selection process has started; to elect the coordinators to serve for the next six months. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 (UTC) on 12 September!
Many thanks, Roger Davies talk 04:17, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
- Just a reminder but, with about 18 hours to go until nominations close, you'll need to get your skates on if you're thinking of standing as a coordinator. The election is based on self-nominations, so please don't be shy in putting your name forward. The last elections will give you an idea of what to expect.
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- Roger Davies talk 06:46, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Test your World War I knowledge with the Henry Allingham International Contest!
As a member of the Military history WikiProject or World War I task force, you may be interested in competing in the Henry Allingham International Contest! The contest aims to improve article quality and member participation within the World War I task force. It will also be a step in preparing for Operation Great War Centennial, the project's commemorative effort for the World War I centenary.
If you would like to participate, please sign up by 11 November 2009, 00:00, when the first round is scheduled to begin! You can sign up here, read up on the rules here, and discuss the contest here! Abraham, B.S. (talk) 13:26, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I recently put the subject article in your task force. I don't think this is the right place for it, but I couldn't figure out a better one. In any case, would some of you please take a look at the article and do what needs to be done to get it some editorial attention? I vote to delete it.Jarhed (talk) 04:23, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
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Peer review for China Marine (memoir) now open
The peer review for China Marine (memoir) is now open; all editors are invited to participate, and any input there would be appreciated! Thanks! -MBK004 00:47, 16 March 2010 (UTC)