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  • I might be busy sometimes (who isn't?) but I'd love to help wherever I can. Also, please note that I'm relatively new to Wikipedia, so I'm not the most experienced. However, I've read and poured over LOTR, the Hobbit, and the Silmarillion, and I consider myself to have a very good knowledge of all three (I hope that doesn't sound like bragging; I'm not trying to brag). ARoyalPrincess (talk) - 2022
  • Still here. Seemed to have been kicked upstairs, but have a commitment to do content work in my spare time and this is one area I will work on soon. Has been too long! Carcharoth (talk) 16:24, 31 December 2008 (UTC) - 2022
  • Still present. FlamingSilmaril (talk) 18:27, 31 December 2008 (UTC) -2022
  • Will certainly help to fix stuff whenever my grossly overloaded schedule permits it. The Fiddly Leprechaun · Catch Me! 14:40, 5 January 2009 (UTC) - 2022
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  • User:Akrabbim 13:55, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
  • Nrodovsky Ooh, pick me, pick me! I'll help when I can, depending upon how many spoons I have. Evening Scribe (talk) 02:42, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
  • I'm not much of a joiner, but there's no point pretending I'm not here. -- Elphion (talk) 20:48, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Ah well, for the record: I'm still on board. De728631 (talk) 20:47, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
  • Hullo. Just joined. Would love to help out any way possible. Lolinder (talk) 04:38, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
  • Just joined. Would love to help in any way I can. :) ~Iamthecheese44 (talk · contribs) 20:07, 25 November 2012 (UTC) - 2022 (last edited this WP when?)
  • First Age stuff. Double sharp (talk) 03:21, 17 May 2013 (UTC) - 2022
  • The Hobbit one of my favorite books as a kid:)Coolabahapple (talk) 04:47, 23 March 2015 (UTC) - 2022
  • Read the series a few times, re-reading it now, looking forward to helping expand the lore! Moony22 19:59, 8 May 2016 (UTC) - 2022
  • Nice to meet you all. I'm happy to contribute to any legendarium topic (indeed I've been doing a fair bit already), although I'm still learning the editing side. Cheers Jungleboy63 (talk) 00:39, 30 October 2016 (UTC) - last edited Minas Tirith 2020
  • I'd like to join and help out. I love Tolkien and have a respectable collection. --Nerd1a4i (talk) 17:03, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Ready to defend the Free Peoples. James2813 (talk) 17:07, 19 April 2020 (UTC) - 2022
  • Hello , thanks for having me! EliteArcher88 (talk) 21:18, 30 April 2020 (UTC) - 2022
  • I'll join to help out here, if I'm forgiven for my role in the deletion push. Hog Farm (talk) 23:34, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Can't believe it's taken me this long to get here. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 13:20, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
  • Yes. AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 03:47, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
  • -- Verbarson  talkedits 19:54, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
  • I am a huge Tolkien fan, and also love copyediting. I hope to help wherever I can. CuriousMastodon (talk) 19:52, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
  • One does not simply walk into Mordor. I'm a massive fan of Tolkien, and my interest has only been reinvigorated based on the recent trailers for the Rings of Power. TNstingray (talk) 13:29, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
  • Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:13, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

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Two Lamps aka Lamps of the ValarEdit

Two Lamps redirects now to History of Arda (redirect created by User:Chiswick Chap). It and Lamps of the Valar (redirect needed?) previously redirected to List of Middle-earth objects which was then deleted. I am not sure if either had a dedicated article on English wikipedia. I did however notice that this topic has Featured level articles on French and Spanish Wikipedias (see wikidata: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q641238#sitelinks-wikipedia). I wonder if it its notable and could be (re?)created on English one? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:12, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

It could. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:14, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
@Chiswick Chap Any chance you plan on tackling this in the foreseeable future? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:25, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
I'll think about it. The lamps are actually covered in some detail already, complete with map-diagrams, so I'd have to feel convinced we had enough extra to say not merely to repeat what is already in the History of Arda and other articles. The danger if we go too far without good reason is that a merge/delete campaign will start up again, and for my money, once was easily enough. So, it's strong, robustly-cited, scholarly articles or nothing. The Spanish article, for instance, is almost entirely primary-cited, which would be a clear deletion candidate over on this wiki. The French one has 4 secondary sources. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:30, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sourcesEdit

I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

  • John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

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Redirect discussion for Fellowship of the Ring (characters)Edit

The redirect Fellowship of the Ring (characters) is under discussion. See Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 July 13#Fellowship of the Ring (characters). —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 05:23, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Encyclopedia of ArdaEdit

Is [1] a RS? I don't think it was discussed at WP:RSN. It is one person's private project, over 20 years old, and received even a short academic review here (which actually means that the project might be notatable, if someone can find one more RS about it). Previous discussion here suggests that it's probably ok but redundant to referencing Tolkien directly, so I'd also assume that the fact that something is covered in Arda is not indicating notablity? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:55, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

"probably ok but redundant to ... Tolkien" is I think broadly correct: the analysis at glyphweb is thorough and careful but not scholarly. I've removed it and replaced it where necessary with primary references. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:06, 22 July 2022 (UTC)