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Articles on Japanese sojourners in the USA

I'm not sure if these fit with "Japanese Americans" or not, so I'd like to post these Japanese-language articles and see where they should go:

• Agatsuma, Toshihiro (我妻 敏博; Division of Special Education (上越教育大学障害児教育講座)). "The Educational Circumstances of Japanese Handicapped Children in the U.S." (在米日本人障害児の実状(その1) : 日本人学校,補習授業校,私立の在外教育施設に対する調査; Archive). Bulletin of Joetsu University of Education (上越教育大学研究紀要) 21(1), 163-172, 2001. Joetsu University of Education. See profile at CiNii. See profile at Joetsu University of Education Academic Institutional Repository (上越教育大学リポジトリ). English abstract available.
• Minami, Yasusuke (南 保輔; Seijo University). "Cultural Identity and Socialization Experiences of Japanese High School Students in the U.S.A. : From a Communication Ecology Study Using Interviews and Time Management Records" (アメリカの「日本人」高校生の文化アイデンティティと社会化経験 : コミュニケーションエコロジー調査から; Archive). Communication Studies (コミュニケーション紀要) 21, 1-34, 2010-03. Seijo University. See profile at CiNii. See profile at Seijo University Library (成城大学リポジトリ). English abstract available.

WhisperToMe (talk) 05:22, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Also I would like to have feedback on whether this article is relevant enough to "Hoshū jugyō kō" or if there is a better place for it:

• Langager, Mark W. (マーク・W・ランガガー; International Christian University). "Supplementary Education as a Biliteracy Acquisition Medium: The Case of Japanese Sojourners Balancing Two Academic Languages" ( バイリテラシー習得媒体としての補習教育：二つの学習言語を両立させる日本人海外子女の事例; Archive). Educational Studies (教育研究) (52), 17-28, 2010-03-31. International Christian University. See profile at CiNii. See profile at International Christian University Repository (国際基督教大学リポジトリ). English abstract available.

WhisperToMe (talk) 09:21, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Ogi "ji" ma or Ogi "shi" ma

I requested renaming of two Japanese islands at Talk:Ogijima and Talk:Megijima because you can know how they should be spelled at this official site of Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism. 男木島(おぎしま) should be Ogishima, and　女木島(めぎしま), Megishima. It is difficult to know whether a "島" is spelled as "shima" or "jima"; I don't know whether there are any more Japanese islands that is not correctly named.　I'd be very appreciated if anyone would check the names of Japanese islands. Thanks.--miya (talk) 16:42, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Moves done. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:04, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

日本穣, I'm sorry to ask re-rename these articles, because I found a more reliable source: GAZETTEER OF JAPAN by the Government of Japan(the Geospatial Information Authority of Japan, and the Hydrographic and Oceanographic Department of the Japan Coast Guard) based on the resolution of the United Nations Conference on the Standardization of Geographical Names, which authorizes "Ogi jima"[1] and "Megi Jima"[2]. "しま/じま" (Shima/Jima) means an "island". Sorry for inconvenience.--miya (talk) 08:18, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Membership Roll?

Hi all. I just came to the realization that the project's front page doesn't have a list of signed up members. Wasn't there a section like this, transcluded from the subpage before? Or just a figment of my false memory.

Anyeays I realized that even though two userboxes are given for the project, they are vastly different in one respect.

If you pasted the first one {{User WikiProject Japan}}

This user is a member of WikiProject Japan.

it doesn't assign you to any wikipedian categories.

Whereas if you use the {{User WP Japan}}

This user participates in
WikiProject Japan.

You are placed in Category:WikiProject Japan participants (and Category:Wikipedians interested in Japan). I think it might be too much labor to ping everyone who used the first user box. Do you think it all right if I modified the first template so they too get filed under the WikiProject members category?--Kiyoweap (talk) 08:47, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

@Kiyoweap: You're looking for Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan/Participants. It's linked in the first paragraph of the main project page, but perhaps we could make it a little more prominent. As for adding the category to the first userbox, it's fine by me. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 11:07, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

@Mr. Stradivarius: Thanks for pointing out "participants" subpage. I couldn't locate it for some reason. Well, since I started I'm just going to finish the job alerting the rest of the people using the user box. Thanks again.--Kiyoweap (talk) 11:13, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Since the membership roster exists, I think it might be better to not tamper with the first user box. So to the 31 or so users I contacted, please make a conscious choice of whether to switch to or add the second type user box to populate your own user name into the Category:WikiProject Japan participants. Sorry for the disturbance. --Kiyoweap

It seems logical to put the userbox in the category, to be honest. Whoever made the userbox probably wasn't aware that there was a category, or maybe just forgot. — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 11:59, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Right now, I prefer if the 30 or so members made their own individual decisions.
The "what links here" does make it already public knowledge they declare themselves members, but considering the existence of the "nocategory=true" switch, it's quite possible they don't want to be listed.
Also weeds out non-active users. The active ones I'm expecting would take notice and make the switch.
As to code change needed I created a post at Template talk:User WikiProject Japan#Category - WikiProject Japan participants. --Kiyoweap (talk) 09:44, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Geisha

The geisha article has recently drawn the attention of some people (perhaps very young?) who don't seem to know what they're doing. It would help if some more experienced, level-headed editors kept an eye on it over the next few days. -- Hoary (talk) 14:43, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Geography: Mount Katsuragi

It translated the disambiguation page for Mount Katsuragi from the Japanese, and after making various changes meant to improve, the layout ended up looking pretty chaotic. I would like someone to clean it up who is resourceful regarding such geography dab pages.
My view is the "Mount Katuragi" in the ancient sense is most significant, since it would be linked in that sense from various history and culture pages.--Kiyoweap (talk) 10:14, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I took a look at that page, and strictly speaking I don't think it should be a disambiguation page, because unlike Japanese we don't have articles yet for any of those mountains, and we are not supposed to list red links on disambiguation pages. What I would suggest is to convert that page into an article on "Mount Katuragi", perhaps based on the content in the Remarks section. You could use that article to explain that there are several mountains with that name. – Margin1522 (talk) 21:00, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Well, perhaps I failed to get this point across in my initial post, but geography articles aren't really my forte or field of interest, so I am not really receptive to your suggestion that I myself develop this into an article proper. It will have to be an open invitation to users at large, particularly those rooted in this area of Nara/Oska, or perhaps [task force] members.

There is a bit more to write, but I'm going to continue at the Talk:Mount Katsuragi page. --Kiyoweap (talk) 18:48, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 23:11, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Okay, I've made (some of it was translated) one article so far: Mount Yamato Katsuragi. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 06:27, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

For Mount Izumi Katsuragi, too. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:31, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Finished Mount Naka Katsuragi. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 05:22, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Working on Minami Katsuragi, but having trouble understanding part of it. If anyone else familiar with Japanese (especially if familiar with the Lotus Sutra, Shugendō, and Japanese Buddhism) wants to help, you can see my question here. Thanks! ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:35, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Finished Kongō Range. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:48, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

RfC for Kenji Miyazawa

There is currently a RfC at Talk:Kenji Miyazawa#RfC: How should this be worded?. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 19:59, 26 April 2015 (UTC)