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hospital pages for AtlantiCare hospitals (New Jersey) need attentionEdit

Please see a proposed split discussion here

Please go voice your opinionEdit

Per WP:UCRN I've requested the move of New York Hospital to Weill Cornell Medical Center because of the commonly known name. Talk:New_York_Hospital#Requested_move_29_August_2020
Andrew nyr (talk, contribs) 15:49, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Notable people born in hospitals?Edit

I just removed a section on "Notable people born here" from the article Royal Devon and Exeter Hospital. I think that's taking the cringing cult of celebrity too far - it's bad enough having B-listers in settlement and school articles. Notable staff - yes, absolutely but surely no need for "notable" births. Did I do the wrong thing? --195.213.187.38 (talk) 21:49, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

There is also a "Notable patients" (was "Famous patients") at Cromwell Hospital, which is just a list of people who had heart attacks or drank themselves to death. I would question whether that section belong in other hospital articles. --195.213.187.38 (talk) 21:55, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
Notable births might be stretching it in my opinion. Prolonged treatments and deaths are more acceptable since the hospital is mentioned in news reports. Sometimes, this is what makes a hospital notable and there are many references for these events. WP:HOS -- Talk to G Moore 12:54, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

UpdateEdit

I just finished completing editing articles and talk pages that had {{WikiProject Hospital}} without class or importance assigned. There must have been a bot that found several hundred hospital articles. @Andrew nyr: added the template without class or importance parameters.

I did my best job of assigning these parameters in a consistent manner. Many of the articles already had class for other WikiProjects, which helped as a starting point. While editing these articles and talk pages, I checked the Infobox to make sure it was present, properly formatted, and had coordinates. If there was no infobox and the article needed it, I either added the infobox or added needs-infobox=Yes on the talk page. WP:HOS -- Talk to G Moore 12:54, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

G. Moore, OMG I am so embarrassed, I just saw this. I used WP:AWB to find all pages in the hospital category that didn't have the template and added it. I should have included ratings, Thanks, Andrew nyr (talk, contribs) 04:56, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Notability criteria revisions - trauma centersEdit

I think we should consider some revisions to the notability guidelines because some articles for large regional hospitals do not appear to strictly meet all the criteria, apparently due to insufficient citations within the article, and are being successfully deleted at WP:AFD. For example, Community Regional Medical Center was recently deleted per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Community Regional Medical Center in spite of it being a large regional level I trauma center. Even though the guidelines note that "In practice, large, regional hospitals will almost always meet all of these standards", users are apparently scrutinizing the existing citations as evidence for a lack of notability rather than taking measures to add references and improve the article. I think at a minimum we should specifically note that verified trauma level status should be sufficient to meet criterion #3, "that at least one source that is outside of the organization's local/service area," and that the other 2 criteria are likely to be met. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:38, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

@Mdewman6: I agree. Help me write the right wording for the Notability section of the tutorial. WP:HOS -- Talk to G Moore 17:38, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
@G. Moore: Something along these lines? All the revisions are in the second-to-last paragraph. Perhaps a bit verbose, and I fear people will still blindly cling to the WP:ORG bullet points without reading the caveats in prose. Fee free to edit. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:00, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
@Mdewman6: I added some verbage to the third criteria that might help. -- Talk to G Moore 20:32, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
@G. Moore: Looks good to me. I will add to the project page. Mdewman6 (talk) 20:42, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
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