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Players of teams that relocated or changed ownersEdit

Recently in the PBA, the Alaska Aces has been bought by a new owner and subsequently renamed/rebranded as the Converge FiberXers. It seems that in practice, if a player is a member of a team that changed owners and/or relocated, we put the new team/franchise/team name in the same "team=" parameter of the infobox. One example of this is Kevin Durant. This method is what I did to former Alaska players that became Converge FiberXers, such as Jeron Teng. However, Gayviewmahat suggested that there should be a new "team=" line because Alaska and Converge are actually different franchises (which is actually the case. Alaska's records are not carried on to Converge. The Alaska franchise is officially defunct.)

Any thoughts? Should we put the two teams in the same line, regardless if whether the records are carried on or not? Or should we take into account these records (one line only if carried on to new franchise; two lines if not)? I am not exactly sure with the rationale of putting two teams in the same line; I was just following what was done to others to be consistent.Engr. Smitty Werben 18:15, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

If the league/association says it's whole new "franchise", then we treat it as it is. Howard the Duck (talk) 20:52, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
In other words, it's two lines. See for example, what we did Ramon Fernandez when Toyota Super Corollas' franchise was extinguished and the Tanduay Rhum Masters bought it out.
Another example is Gabby Espinas when the Sta. Lucia Realtors franchise was bought out by the Meralco Bolts.
Interesitngly, the Chris Ross article used this logic until tenures with Sta. Lucia and Meralco were merged under one "line" in 2017. Howard the Duck (talk) 22:51, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
It should be a new "team=" line. For example, when Welcoat Dragons franchise buys the Shell Turbo Chargers franchise, the records of Shell doesn't carry over to the Welcoat so it's clear that the Alaska and Converge franchises are different, it also because they're not the same company. Gayviewmahat (talk) 08:27, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
Take note it's not always as straightforward as this. It still depends on circumstances; a good counterexample is when San Miguel Corporation bought the Purefoods franchise from the Ayalas. It's best to check how the league treated the transaction. Howard the Duck (talk) 10:43, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
The deciding factor in NBA pages has been whether the new ownership keeps the team history from past ownerships. In the case of the New Orleans Hornets, they ultimately gave up its Charlotte history, so you see Baron Davis with separate entries for both teams. The Oklahoma City Thunder still claim Seattle SuperSonics history (for now), so Kevin Durant has a single line for both.—Bagumba (talk) 11:02, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Plural changes to List of Champions tablesEdit

Just wanted to see what other people's thoughts were on the following plural changes made by an IP to NBA and NBL List of Champions table column headers NBA NBL NZNBL. Team > Teams; Champion > Champions. I'm happy to align, just want to clarify what the consensus is. Thanks. DaHuzyBru (talk) 10:29, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

I'd say that they should refect the data that is in an individual cell. For a list of championships by year, that would be singular "Champion", since there is only one champion per year. For a list of results by team, since it is cumulative, plurals are fine. A list like List of World Series champions seems to be consistent.—Bagumba (talk) 10:05, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
I agree regarding the individual cell. That is how I perceive it too. DaHuzyBru (talk) 10:29, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Ali Mansour (basketball)Edit

A user complained at WT:AN that they could not create Draft:Ali Mansour (basketball) due to a blacklist entry targeting an actor with the same name and associated with Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ali mansour. The suggested remedy is to create a userspace draft at a non-blacklisted title and then have an administrator move to draftspace, but it is also possible to create the article directly at Ali Mansour (basketball). The player is possibly notable as a member of the Lebanon men's national basketball team. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 00:34, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Anna Wilson (basketball)Edit

I just nominated Anna Wilson (basketball) for featured article status, feel free to comment or review at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Anna Wilson (basketball)/archive1. Thank you. Therapyisgood (talk) 00:42, 28 June 2022 (UTC)