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New photos available of Italian architecture

Michele Capobianco, Villa Castellano in Punta Lagno, Naples. Photo by Paolo Monti, 1966 (Fondo Paolo Monti, BEIC).

I'm happy to inform you that now we have thousands of new photos of architecture in Italy, from ancient to contemporary, thanks to the donation of the Paolo Monti digitalized archive (17.000 images) by the BEIC Foundation (who acquired the full archive in 2008 and has the full rights). Paolo Monti was a famous photographer from Milan and shoot the photos with permission by architects, for catalogues and magazines (so we don't have problems with the typical lack of panorama freedom in Italy). See a selected gallery. All those beautiful images now need only to be used in Wikipedia articles. Do you like to help us? All images are in Commons:category:Photographs by Paolo Monti. Thank you! --Marco Chemello (BEIC) (talk) 13:10, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Does anyone actually read this?

As far as I can see, the last two posts that attracted a response (apart from me in March) were in October and August 2015. It might be useful to get a "muster", so if you have seen this, please just sign below. Thanks! Johnbod (talk) 14:29, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I saw this:
Me too. KJP1 (talk) 05:12, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Architecture of Las Vegas

The Venturi and Scott Brown sources, and the sources about them, only really take one as far as the middle 1990s. It would be good to extend the article into covering the state of the city as of the 21st century. There's a lot more to be brought from Jaschke & Ötsch 2003, also. Uncle G (talk) 09:21, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Category:Chapels by type has been nominated for discussion


Category:Chapels by type, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has been nominated for merging to Category:Types of chapels. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 02:42, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Distribution of building ages by locale

Sorry if this is a FAQ, but I am interested in seeing representations (e.g. histograms or similar) of building ages by location (e.g. for various regions/countries/cities). For example, the Haussmann renovation of Paris would result in a spike not seen in some other areas; the cities most heavily damaged in WWII would similarly have a spike after 1945. There are a few graphs related to energy efficiency that focus on construction during the 20th century, but I have not seen representations that go further back - maybe I'm just missing it (e.g. using the wrong search terms). Thanks for any assistance! — soupvector (talk) 19:23, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Never seen anything like that. Sounds like a lot of work for not very much retuern in most places. Johnbod (talk) 12:34, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Auto-assessment of article classes

Following a recent discussion at WP:VPR, there is consensus for an opt-in bot task that automatically assesses the class of articles based on classes listed for other project templates on the same page. In other words, if WikiProject A has evaluated an article to be C-class and WikiProject B hasn't evaluated the article at all, such a bot task would automatically evaluate the article as C-class for WikiProject B.

If you think auto-assessment might benefit this project, consider discussing it with other members here. For more information or to request an auto-assessment run, please visit User:BU RoBOT/autoassess. This is a one-time message to alert projects with over 1,000 unassessed articles to this possibility. ~ RobTalk 22:18, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Sounds sensible to me. --Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:32, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
Probably best of two evils - even the most important buildings or local styles will be low importance for the country or city concerned, but you will remove the unclassified ones. Some odd things will be massively over-rated - stadia perhaps. The current ratings are pretty useless anyway - entirelyt so if no one actually acts on them. The Visual art project rightly just doesn't do importance ratings. Johnbod (talk) 15:35, 4 June 2016 (UTC)
@Johnbod: To be clear, this task does not inherit importance ratings whatsoever, since these vary quite a bit from project to project. It just inherits class ratings (stub, start, etc). From a technical standpoint, I could inherit importance ratings if a project requested it and showed consensus, but I obviously couldn't guarantee accuracy to any degree. Incorrect ratings would likely be extraordinarily high, and I wouldn't recommend such a task. ~ RobTalk 11:55, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. 12:33, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
  • After a few days, there appears to be some support and no opposition to opting in. You may want to consider listing this project at User:BU RoBOT/autoassess to opt-in. I'm unfollowing this project page, so please ping me if anyone has any questions that require the bot operator's response. ~ RobTalk 17:03, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Please note that List of aqueducts in the Roman Empire, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing!
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[new] List of Oscar Niemeyer works

I've recently started a more robust list to replace the current List of Oscar Niemeyer works. My prototype is at: User:Prburley/sandbox/n

I believe it follow WP:MOS and general WP architecture practices, but I'd appreciate any and all feedback from the WP:List community before I go very far into this.

Thanks in advance. Prburley (talk) 14:11, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Grant Thornton Tower signage

Please comment at Talk:Grant Thornton Tower#Signage rights if you have any helpful information.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:43, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Cronkhill and Attingham Park

I would be interested in the views of others as to the commissioner of/patron for Cronkhill. All the sources I have access to state that it was Francis Walford, agent to and friend of Lord Berwick. These sources include Newman and Pevsner's Shropshire, "The house was built for Francis Walford" (p=240); Mansbridge's John Nash: A complete catalogue, "Built for Francis Walford.." (p=101); BLBO, "Cronkhill was built for Francis Walford", here [1] and Historic England, text as before, here [2]. Colvin apparently also says Walford, although I do not have access to this.

However, until I altered it yesterday, the Wikipedia article stated the house was built for Lord Berwick. The bases for this claim appear to be that the land on which Cronkhill was built formed part of the Attingham Park estate; that the Berwicks lived in the house after Walford's departure circa 1820 and that Walford didn't become agent to Lord Berwick until some years after Cronkhill was built. All of this appears be supported by the National Trust website for Attingham Park, here [3]. This states, in a brief pop-up, that the house was "Designed by John Nash for The Second Lord Berwick" and describes the house as "a generous gesture for a friend". In short, this appears to suggest that Berwick commissioned, and paid for, the house and then "loaned/leased" it to Walford, regaining possession when their friendship was severed in 1828. This would appear to be supported by an entry in the National Archive, here [4], which talks of Francis Walford of Cronkhill leasing Cronkhill Farm from Lord Berwick in 1816.

I would be very grateful for views on the proper attribution for the Cronkhill article. The same issue occurs in the section on Cronkhill in the Attingham Park article. I have copied this enquiry to the Cronkhill Talkpage. Many thanks. KJP1 (talk) 08:47, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:One World Trade Center#New infobox image

 Participants at WikiProject Architecture are invited to join the discussion at Talk:One World Trade Center#New infobox image, to discuss a new infobox image. Thank you! ✉cookiemonster✉ 𝚨755𝛀 19:36, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Chimera (architecture)

There is currently a requested move discussion at Talk:Chimera (architecture)#Requested move 3 July 2016 which would benefit from a few informed comments. Cheers! PC78 (talk) 07:21, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Question about French architecture

What style is the Shush Castle built in exactly? --Z 20:55, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

  • @Z: It's a late 19th century imitation of Sasanian architecture. Giano (talk) 08:27, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

St Botolph's Church, Quarrington at FAC

Hello. Just to let any interested persons know, I have nominated St Botolph's Church, Quarrington as a Featured Article Candidate (see WP:FAC). It's a listed, medieval, English Church. Any constructive comments there would be greatly appreciated. All the best, —Noswall59 (talk) 16:43, 31 July 2016 (UTC).

Featured Article Proposal Comments: St. Peter's Basilica

I have nominated St. Peter's Basilica for Featured article status. Its entry is listed at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/St. Peter's Basilica/archive1, where you can leave your comments. All comments are appreciated and the more there are, the more quickly it can be promoted or the nomination closed. Ergo Sum 22:03, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Changes To Project Page

I'm not a member of this project, just a "regular" contributor/editor. So I wasn't certain if I should make changes to the project page itself. Let me know if I can/should make changes in the future. The one small item at the moment that I would like to see changed is the Featured Articles section. The sub-section of Good Articles has a separate grouping for 'cities/countries/regions', which the Featured Articles sub-section does not. I'd like for the 2 to be consistent. There's a few articles (abstract concepts/groups of buildings) currently under the 'buildings' group that could be grouped independently. Ivansevil (talk) 01:01, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure I'm formally a member either, but I'd guess the general "Be Bold" Rule applies. If you think the changes would be beneficial, and you've offered others the chance to comment, as you have, then go ahead. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 05:07, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

Notice to participants at this page about adminship

Many participants here create a lot of content, have to evaluate whether or not a subject is notable, decide if content complies with BLP policy, and much more. Well, these are just some of the skills considered at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship.

So, please consider taking a look at and watchlisting this page:

You could be very helpful in evaluating potential candidates, and even finding out if you would be a suitable RfA candidate.

Many thanks and best wishes,

Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:47, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Castles Challenge

Hello. Let me announce a new writing contest in September. It's a contest about castles of Armenia and Spain. You have the complete information here on meta. Thanks! --Millars (talk) 16:56, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Importing national built heritage registers into Wikidata

Hi all

I'm working on the Connected Open Heritage project which plans to upload national built heritage registers to Wikidata (these are often the lists that WLM is based upon in each country). The first step is to create a worldwide list of built heritage registers on Wikipedia, we would really like your help in completing this list with your local knowledge. It should only take a few minutes to fill the information in for each country if you know who produces the information.

Thanks very much

--John Cummings (talk) 13:20, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Page move

A move discussion has opened at Talk:FirstEnergy Stadium (Cleveland)#Requested move 19 September 2016 that may be of interest to editors here. --JonRidinger (talk) 16:29, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Women in architecture editathon in October

You are invited...

Women in Architecture & Women in Archaeology editathons
Hosted by Women in Red - October 2016 - #wikiwomeninred

--Ipigott (talk) 14:50, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

(To subscribe, Women in Red/Invite list. Unsubscribe, Women in Red/Opt-out list)

I've taken the liberty of adding links to two redlists of missing female architects to the WP:ARCH mainpage. Both are part of theWomen in Red initiative, aimed at correcting the distressing imbalance of male and female biographies on wikipedia, currently in a ratio of 84:16.
I hope members of this project will continue to put time towards Women in Red even after the close of this month's editathon. thanks --Tagishsimon (talk) 23:02, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!

Please note that Attic, which is within this project's scope, has been selected as one of Today's articles for improvement. The article was scheduled to appear on Wikipedia's Community portal in the "Today's articles for improvement" section for one week, beginning today. Everyone is encouraged to collaborate to improve the article. Thanks, and happy editing!
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New user

New user Danalynnh just edited the Wikipedia article on lighting. Can anyone here please comment on this person's talk page? This person is a librarian and is learning about Wikipedia for themselves and their library guests. Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:00, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Done. The edit was reverted for WP:TRIVIA, which is right, but also a shame. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:15, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Dead links: National Heritage List for England

Please see thread at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject England#Dead links: National Heritage List for England. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:54, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Fiesole Cathedral

It should have more info added. There should be a link for basilica floorplan, nave, martyrdom, Gothic medallions, vault, Bishop Jacopo the Bavarian, frescoes, Salutati Chapel, and bishop Leonardo Salutati. Its is organized nicely and has pictures. Jhhistorystudent (talk) 00:18, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Can anyone find a ref for Opus emplectum?

Tagged as unreferenced since 2009. I see some mentions in few books, so it does not seem like an outright hoax, but I cannot find any source actually defining (explaining) this. Can anyone find a source? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:26, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

I've added a ref, though I cannot get the 'collaboration' parameter to work sensibly in {{cite book}}. --Tagishsimon (talk) 02:38, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Francis Fleetwood

Hello. I recently created Francis Fleetwood, who designed over 200 mansions in The Hamptons. Perhaps if some editors here want to expand the article, we could take it to DYK.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:08, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

2016 Community Wishlist Survey Proposal to Revive Popular Pages

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Liebenberg and Kaplan

Hi WikiProject Architecture. A new article has been created about the firm Liebenberg and Kaplan. Would someone mind taking a look at it and assessing it? Thanks in advance. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:23, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Capel Manor House

Should anyone have the time/inclination, I'd be interested in their thoughts on the above. In 2012 it was flagged for deletion for copyright violation. It survived that challenge but I see the principal author has now been permanently banned for repeated copyright violation. The article certainly reads like a "lift" - it's highly POV and very largely uncited. I strongly suspect it merits a very vigorous pruning, but I'd be interested in others' thoughts. Thanks and regards. KJP1 (talk) 16:43, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Missing topics list

My list missing topics in architecture (and building) updated - Skysmith (talk) 12:02, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Category:Round towers has been nominated for discussion


Category:Round towers has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. --Bermicourt (talk) 10:09, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Category:Architects by activity has been nominated for discussion


Category:Architects by activity, which may interest participants of this WikiProject, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to see if it abides with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Sionk (talk) 14:12, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

GA reassessment of Romney's House

Romney's House, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:24, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Have done what I can, which I hope will be sufficient. KJP1 (talk) 14:58, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

Move draft of "Flounder House" to main encyclopedia

Hello! I'd like to make this draft article about Flounder House a part of the main encyclopedia!

If you agree the draft is ready for prime time (and for the natural contributions of more editors), I'd love assistance in making the move. On the other hand, if you think it needs more help before being made live, please feel free to edit it in its current form.

Thank you! —Verbistheword (talk) 18:32, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Oh, and here is a link to an earlier request about the draft. —Verbistheword (talk) 18:33, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
Hello again! I've gone ahead and moved it to the main namespace: Flounder house. Thanks for any who took a look at it! —Verbistheword (talk) 20:42, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Monnow Bridge

This article's recently pass GA and I've now put it up for Peer Review. It's a notable building in its own right, as the only example of its type left in the UK, and also has some Wikipedia notability as the, semi-official, symbol of Monmouth, The World's First Wikipedia Town. Any comments from Project members would be very much appreciated. KJP1 (talk) 18:47, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Chicago Title and Trust naming rights

I have heard by word of mouth that when Chicago Title & Trust moved from 161 North Clark to 10 South LaSalle they bought the naming rights for the new building. However, I can not find an WP:RS documenting this. Please comment at Talk:10_South_LaSalle#Naming_rights.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:52, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Nominating Palais Rohan, Strasbourg for A-Class

The article failed its FAC, but it was much expanded and edited in the process since it became a GA, and actually got some support: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Palais Rohan, Strasbourg/archive1. It most probably fulfils all the criteria to be promoted A-Class. Thank you in advance to all future reviewers! --Edelseider (talk) 22:03, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

  • Comment: Before the Palais Rohan article is judged for its quality, it might be held up as an example of how much clean-up and copyediting work a single sloppy, contentious, self-promoting editor with an aversion to edit summaries can generate for the Wikipedia community. Eric talk 01:08, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
    Is that a personal attack? Shall I report you for this? By the tone of your comment, I think that you are a bitter person. Maybe your own life is punishment enough. Edelseider (talk) 07:28, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

Nominating Palais Rohan, Strasbourg, for A-Class (this time without interference)

The article failed its FAC, but it was much expanded and edited in the process since it became a GA, and actually got some support: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Palais Rohan, Strasbourg/archive1. It most probably fulfils all the criteria to be promoted A-Class. Thank you in advance to all future reviewers! Edelseider (talk) 20:15, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Architectural design optimization

Can someone familiar with architecture tell me if this concept is necessary as a discrete article, or could it be merged elsewhere? I did a quick Google search but most of the stuff I found is a little too technical for me. If it is notable enough to stand alone, does anyone know where I could link to it to de-orphan it? ♠PMC(talk) 08:41, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

Computer-aided architectural engineering? It would get you a few, not many, links. It's by the same author, obviously reflecting his interests. I'm afraid it's a bit too modern for me, so I have no idea as to its independent notability. Regards. KJP1 (talk) 13:38, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
Hmm, I've linked ADO from CAAE in the see also. A bit cheap, but at least it de orphans it :) Thanks for the help! ♠PMC(talk) 02:09, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Advertising at Green roof

Hi! I have started a discussion at Talk:Green roof regarding a section that could be considered advertising. I would greatly appreciate it if you could contribute to the discussion. Thanks, Jith12 (talk) 20:31, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Members of this Project...

...may be interested in this discussion]. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:12, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

RfC on the WP:ANDOR guideline

Hi, all. Opinions are needed on the following: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#RfC: Should the WP:ANDOR guideline be softened to begin with "Avoid unless" wording or similar?. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 22:56, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Expert attention needed

I have opened a discussion at Talk:Holy Name of Jesus Cathedral, Raleigh regarding what I believe is an excessive amount of architectural detail added to this article. I'd like to get input from members of this community regarding the matter. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 20:23, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Use of Geobox vs Infobox for buildings

Bringing a proposal about the use of geobox vs infobox for buildings to the attention of this related WikiProject. --HyperGaruda (talk) 17:36, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Citation overkill proposal at WP:Citation overkill talk page

Opinions are needed on the following: Wikipedia talk:Citation overkill#Citations. A permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 06:50, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Popular pages report

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Multiple articles on sustainable design

I'm cross-posting this: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Environment#Multiple_articles_on_sustainable_design. Fences&Windows 18:19, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

WP:Citation overkill RfC

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Wikipedia talk:Citation overkill#Should this essay be changed to encourage more citations?. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 01:43, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Inclusion of "Great Mosque of al-Nuri (Mosul)" in 2017 under discussion

Hello. The inclusion of "Great Mosque of al-Nuri (Mosul)" is debated at Talk:2017#Al-Nuri Mosque in Mosul, where I invite you to join in. --George Ho (talk) 00:12, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

The event is proposed at Talk:2017#RfC: Events in May and June 2017 to be included or excluded. Join in discussion. --George Ho (talk) 06:22, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

RfC regarding the WP:Lead guideline -- the first sentence

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Lead section#Request for comment on parenthetical information in first sentence. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 05:34, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Expert assistance sought for Rammed earth

I recently came across Rammed earth, and as detailed on its Talk page and specifically the section I just added (Talk:Rammed_earth#Multiple_issues_(again)), it could use a little help from someone who knows a little bit more about the matter than I do. It's written in a rather promotional style, and could use some unbiased, referenced discussion on the technique's disadvantages. Better references are also desired all around, for reasons I mention in the link. It has the possibilities of being a decent article, it just needs some balance and credible citations.

Hopefully I'm asking in the right place - I've been editing here for years, but never submitted an assistance request. Also, if anyone has any ideas on where else I can ask for assistance for this article, please let me know. Many thanks! DadOfBeanAndBug (talk) 04:12, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Sheila Sri Prakash

I hope someone here can have a look at the article Sheila Sri Prakash. It reads more like a eulogy than an encyclopedia article. See this thread at the Teahouse. Maproom (talk) 07:08, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Name of an architectural style

Does anyone know a name for the architectural style of this house? It's not quite a Craftsman, certainly not a Queen Anne, too simple for Shingle Style... - Jmabel | Talk 04:13, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

It looks to me like a pleasantly decorated shed, or shack. KJP1 (talk) 21:13, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

RfC: Red links in infoboxes

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Infoboxes#RfC: Red links in infoboxes. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 13:31, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Women in Red's new initiative: #1day1woman

Women in Red is pleased to introduce...
A new initiative for worldwide online coverage: #1day1woman
  • Create articles on any day of any month
  • Cover women and their works in any field of interest
  • Feel free to add articles in other languages, too
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(To subscribe: Women in Red/English language list and Women in Red/international list. Unsubscribe: Women in Red/Opt-out list) --Ipigott (talk) 11:23, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

GA Review needed for Chartwell

If anybody fancies a bash at a GA review, I have tried to raise Chartwell from its current Start Class. Thanks and regards. KJP1 (talk) 18:28, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Now picked up. KJP1 (talk) 11:24, 30 July 2017 (UTC)


I have nominated List of tallest buildings in Houston for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sandvich18 (talk) 09:15, 1 August 2017 (UTC)


I have nominated List of tallest buildings in Portland, Oregon for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sandvich18 (talk) 11:11, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Pier articles

I am looking to improve an article on a pier, though find it hard to see other similar articles according to their current quality classification to see what i'd need to do to bring it up to a particular quality rating (as they just generically fall under the "WP Architecture" setup). I can see a few years ago there was an attempt to start a wikiproject as a sub-project of Architecture, but this seems to have gone quiet over the years. Is there a way a pier article could be specifically specified as such on the talk page and thus create/be part of their own quality class categories, within the WP Archi setup (similar to how historic houses have their own set of categories as per a parameter on the WP template)? Bungle (talkcontribs) 15:55, 10 August 2017 (UTC)


I have nominated List of tallest buildings in Tulsa, Oklahoma for featured list removal here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sandvich18 (talk) 14:57, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

RfC: Should the WP:TALK guideline discourage interleaving?

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Wikipedia talk:Talk page guidelines#RfC: Should the guideline discourage interleaving? #2. A permalink for it is here. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 19:41, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject Women in Red/The World Contest

Hi. In November The Women in Red World Contest is being held to try to produce new articles for as many countries worldwide and occupations as possible. There will be over $4000 in prizes to win, including Amazon vouchers and paid subscriptions. If this would appeal to you and you think you'd be interested in contributing new articles on women architects during this month please sign up in the participants section. If you're not interested in prize money yourself but are willing to participate and raise money to buy books about women for others to use, this is also fine. Help would also be appreciated in drawing up the lists of missing articles. If you think of any missing articles for your project please add them to the appropriate sub list Missing articles. Thankyou, and if taking part, good luck!♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:14, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Disambiguation of article titles re built environment

Comma vs parentheses. Please see Talk:Statue of Margaret Thatcher (London Guildhall)#Requested move 2 October 2017. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:36, 19 October 2017 (UTC)


An RFC has been opened about categorization of events by past or current country, see the link here. While this may initially seem unrelated to architecture, it is actually relevant as it (also) concerns categorization of buildings and structures by past or current country. Feel free to join the discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:00, 20 October 2017 (UTC)


The above is currently up for Peer Review, here, Wikipedia:Peer review/Cragside/archive1. It's an important house and any and all comments would be most welcome. KJP1 (talk) 13:24, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

Jaeger Kahlen Partner

Is the company Jaeger Kahlen Partner notable? If so, the article needs fixing by those interested. George Ho (talk) 09:58, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Breton 'maitres'

About List of the works of the Maître de Plougastel, the text suggests that is Maître de Plougastel is a person, but is that really the case? Plougastel-Daoulas is actually the name of the place where the works are located. It could be a coincidence that the name of a person and the name of a place coincide, however the same issue also applies to other articles in the same category. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:48, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

nO IDEA IN THIS CASE BUT FOR Anonymous masters a notname taken from a prominent work/site is common. See a wp search on "Master of". Hope that helps. Johnbod (talk) 11:59, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

Three Villa d'Este mansions

There are three Villa d'Este mansions. There is Villa d'Este in Tivoli, Villa d'Este (Cernobbio) in Cernobbio, and Villa d'Este (Johannesburg) in Saxonwold, Johannesburg. I think we should reset Villa d'Este as a disambiguation page and then list them all with the location. That would entail moving Villa d'Este to Villa d'Este (Tivoli) first. I am not sure I can do this as a non-admin, without messing up the redirect (especially with the talkpages). Could an admin please take care of this?Zigzig20s (talk) 06:00, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Disambiguation links on pages tagged by this wikiproject

Wikipedia has many thousands of wikilinks which point to disambiguation pages. It would be useful to readers if these links directed them to the specific pages of interest, rather than making them search through a list. Members of WikiProject Disambiguation have been working on this and the total number is now below 20,000 for the first time. Some of these links require specialist knowledge of the topics concerned and therefore it would be great if you could help in your area of expertise.

A list of the relevant links on pages which fall within the remit of this wikiproject can be found at

Please take a few minutes to help make these more useful to our readers.— Rod talk 13:11, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

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Hello WikiProject Architecture,

Unregistered editors cannot create articles on Wikipedia, but they can use the articles for creation process to submit drafts that registered editors can either accept and publish or decline. WikiProject Articles for creation is looking for experienced editors who want to partake in this peer review process. If you have what it takes to get involved, then please take a look at the reviewing instructions. To discuss specific AfC reviews, do so freely on the designated talk page.

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Worldbruce (talk) 01:03, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Editors willing to review a variety of drafts are especially welcome. If you're interested only in reviewing certain topics, that still helps. At least 17 pending drafts relate to architecture (are in the intersection of Category:Pending AfC submissions and Category:Draft-Class Architecture articles). Over 2000 pending drafts have not yet had a WikiProject added, so more may be in the scope of this WikiProject. --Worldbruce (talk) 01:03, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

Links to pending architecture-related drafts:

Title Page ID Namespace Size (bytes) Last change
Primavera City 54585971 118 12521 20171225041733
Le Sabot 55676586 118 6476 20171225040748
Safdie Rabines Architects 55696038 118 14562 20171225041402
List of tallest buildings in Puebla 55697316 118 6086 20171225040853
Britt Scripps Manor 55789685 118 7865 20171225041636
1880 Union Hotel 55789786 118 1722 20171225041639
Nourse Theater 55803535 118 1590 20171225042053
Jo Palma 55810686 118 5504 20171225042016
The house of the merchant Fedorov 55833666 118 2130 20171225042136
The Landscape Architect Registration Examination 55898252 118 8892 20171225045911
Indian Society of Landscape Architects 55935341 118 2422 20171225050509
Chehel Sotoun Mosque of Kerman 55944952 118 1135 20171225043951
Pedro Aibéo 55965954 118 5734 20171225044240
Euro Facade Tech 55971672 118 3224 20171225044402
Pazhaveedu Sree Bhagavathi Temple 55997476 118 1318 20171225045027
Forest Town Hall 56039383 118 1562 20171225045720
Foundations Church 56050002 118 3208 20171225045948

Regenerate this table.

--Worldbruce (talk) 06:43, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Some red-linked architects

There are three architects without articles at Surveyor of the Fabric of Westminster Abbey. Do people here think they meet Wikipedia's notability criteria? James Horne (architect) (18th century), John Peter Foster (better known as Peter Foster, 1919-2010), and John Burton (architect). Carcharoth (talk) 15:33, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

I think that more important is some discussion in that article as to exactly what the position is? As the the article currently is written it might as well be List of Surveyor of the Fabric of Westminster Abbey. I am guessing that the position is something akin to Architect of the Capitol in the United States, but the point of wikipeida (one of the points) is that it is here so readers do not have to guess. Carptrash (talk) 16:18, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
Good point. I made a start. Hopefully that can be improved. Carcharoth (talk) 18:28, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Some more red-linked architects at Surveyor of the Fabric of St Paul's Cathedral: Mervyn Edmund Macartney, Walter Godfrey Allen from the early 20th century, and then the two most recent ones in Martin Stancliffe and Oliver Caroe. It gets harder the more recent they are... Carcharoth (talk) 23:35, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Final note. Someone may want to try and work on Cathedral Architect. Carcharoth (talk) 00:07, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Hostile architecture

I ask this wikiproject's opinion on the sources I've proposed on Talk:Hostile architecture. Thanks, Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 07:26, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Seeking opinions re possible problematic edits to medieval architecture-related articles

Hello all- Wondering if someone with architecture savvy could look over my shoulder and tell me if I'm on the wrong track with an IP editor who has made what I see as problematic changes to several articles today. The IP in question has a long history of blocks. Article histories:

See also: Special:Contributions/ and User_talk: Pinging a couple admins who have shown interest in this domain -- hope that's appropriate: Favonian, Carcharoth. Thanks in advance for any input. Eric talk 19:18, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, no idea. Maybe Johnbod? Carcharoth (talk) 20:31, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
They aren't too bad, though the English is poor. I've treated as seems best. Johnbod (talk) 09:27, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks to both of you. Eric talk 15:36, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Documentation of lost architectural heritage

I am proposing some sort of collaboration so as to increase the coverage on Wikipedia about buildings/sites of architectural/heritage significance which have been demolished, destroyed or otherwise lost. The idea is that if such buildings are documented, they will not be forgotten. Are there any users who are interested to help create/translate articles about this subject?

I already created a few articles on this subject, such as the Monumental Arch of Palmyra (blown up by ISIS in 2015), the Church of San Salvatore, Campi (destroyed by an earthquake in 2016) and the Church of St. Lambertus, Immerath (demolished in 2018).

To-do list of some recently lost/destroyed buildings (sorted by the date of destruction/damage):

If anyone can add other buildings/sites to the above list, feel free to do so. My idea is to focus on sites which have been recently destroyed, but any lost buildings may be included.

--Xwejnusgozo (talk) 16:42, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

This is an awesome idea, with a caveat. If these structures don't fall into the overly narrow parameters of Wikipedia notability for architecture they'll get flagged for deletion. Having said that, I'm currently working on an article about the Sé Cathedral of Salvador, Bahia, demolished in 1933. Prburley (talk) 19:13, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
A group article on the losses in the earthquake of October 2016 should certainly be notable, and might be the best idea. Johnbod (talk) 03:08, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Nabil Gholam

Could someone please look at Nabil Gholam, the architect that possibly is responsible for Platinum Tower (Beirut). Notability is not very clear. (See also WP:BLPN#nabil_gholam) Agathoclea (talk) 14:04, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

Looking at it, I would say notability has not been proven by sources. I would add a few more. Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 04:14, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Lost Heritage

I came across and found the picture galleries quite interesting. I thought I'd post it here to see if it could somehow be useful to this wikiproject. Cheers. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:28, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Peer review

I've begun a Peer Review of my article, Ludwigsburg Palace, here. I would appreciate some commentary and/or suggestions. –Vami_IV✠ 03:41, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

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Notability standards for architect bios (cf. Gary Haney)

Hi, WikiProject Architecture! I wanted to draw your attention to the AfD deletion discussion for Gary Haney. I'm sensitive to the problems of WP:CANVASS but I wanted to particularly invite comment on what the notability standards are for architect biography articles (also, "the talk page or noticeboard of one or more WikiProjects" is explicitly allowed). Because there is often not a lot of information out in the public record about architects, and because the limited information that is available is often in primary source form or directly associated with the architect's firm or the building's owner, it seems that biographical articles about architects are extremely vulnerable to criticisms of lack of notability, overdependance on primary sources, and original research. It seems to me that because of the nature of this subject matter, those criteria ought to be viewed with a bit more leniency than they might in some other areas of Wikipedia. I would welcome thoughts on this issue both in the AfD as well as here, as appropriate. Thanks. jhawkinson (talk) 00:11, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

Responded on the Afd page. KJP1 (talk) 06:42, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
The AfD closed with result keep. One of the questions that came up is whether the Wikipedia notability criteria are clear enough for cases like this. Notability wasn't seriously raised as an issue until the final day of the AfD, so it wasn't well-discussed, but I had been looking at the generic criteria of WP:NOTABLE and struggling a bit with it. @Johnbod: pointed out that WP:CREATIVE offers a slightly clearer view, and certainly that explicitly mentions architects. But I'm still not sure if there is some clarity we should attempt to work through in the notability standards for architects to avoid having this problem recur or to reach an inconsistent result if the AfD is handled differently. Thoughts? Thanks. jhawkinson (talk) 22:17, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Input on Andreja Damjanov Requested move 3 April 2018 Thank you. FkpCascais (talk) 04:35, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Is this actually an architecture query? It looks more like a, rather depressing, Balkan nationalist debate. As to the article name, I'd suggest it uses the more commonly-occurring variant, with perhaps a redirect from the other? KJP1 (talk) 05:19, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

University of New Mexico looking to sponsor a Wikipedia Visiting Scholar

Of possible interest to WikiProject members:

The University of New Mexico (UNM) is looking to sponsor a Wikipedia Visiting Scholar.

The University of New Mexico Libraries would like to work with a Wikipedian to explore themes related to following interdisciplinary areas:

  • Intersections of science, design, art, and architecture in New Mexico
  • Energy, water, and environmental policy in the Southwest and Latin America
  • Healing and foodways in the high desert

The Visiting Scholars program connects Wikipedians with educational institutions based on shared interest in a topic. Any editor in good standing is welcome to apply. Professional experience is not a requirement. For more information, as well as the application, see the University of New Mexico’s Visiting Scholars page. If you have questions, feel free to reach out on my talk page. Will (Wiki Ed) (talk) 23:16, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Hostile architecture

I ask this wikiproject's opinion on some of the sources I've proposed on Talk:Hostile architecture. I know it's a long list, but a few would be nice. Thanks, Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 03:21, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Template:Architecture in Portland, Oregon

I've nominated Template:Architecture in Portland, Oregon for deletion, and invite project members to contribute to the discussion. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:47, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Edwin A. Keeble (potential POV-pushing)

User:Eagledj added a direct quote which sounds POV to me:

  • "...Edwin Keeble designed dozens of homes in our finest enclaves (and some of our more, shall we say, affordable ones, for that matter) and to say 'It's a Keeble,' about a seven-figure home is like putting a pretty corsage on an Armani tuxedo".

I find the second clause (comparing it to an Armani suit) a bit much. At the same time, it is not in the voice of Wikipedia, but in the voice of the quoted publication. Should it be trimmed? Please ping me when you reply. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:29, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Zigzig20s-- I share your concern, and I don't mind striking the quote or trimming it; however, it is a direct quote from a RS that has been given attribution. I does sound catty, and doesn't fit the article as it stands. Point well taken. Give me a chance to soften it before we throw it out altogether. Regards--Eagledj (talk) 02:10, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Thank you.02:49, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Belated reply on article Talkpage. KJP1 (talk) 05:03, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Frank Gehry Carbonite Tower, Hanover, Germany

Re: Frank Gehry Carbonite Tower, Hanover, Germany So does anyone know who is the image of on this building? Is this part of the facade tranlucent like the adjacent windows? Greg Good; — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:06, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

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