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Copied from WP:ERRORS edit

Latest comment: 17 years ago4 comments3 people in discussion

The link from Red Cross Movement leads to the article ICRC, which is incorrect, it should lead instead to International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement. - Alsandro · T · w:ka: Th · T 00:51, 22 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

I Disagree. It should lead to the ICRC - it said the movement "officially began when twelve European nations signed the First Geneva Convention", and the ICRC "has a unique authority based on the international humanitarian law of the Geneva Conventions to protect the victims of international and internal armed conflicts." —Mets501 (talk) 01:14, 22 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

I hear what you're saying, but the blurb is about the founding of the Red Cross movement generally and the overview article is more correct, especially because they are often confused. The ICRC does not run the movement. It's an affiliated organization, not an umbrella. --Dhartung | Talk 16:44, 22 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Exactly, the movement is represented by three independent "branches" not just ICRC. If annyversary item mentions "movement" than the link should lead to the movement article. - Alsandro · T · w:ka: Th · T 18:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

2012 notes edit

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Deleted: Bill Woodfull (as a general rule, sports records are not listed unless they are extraordinary)
Omitted: Battle of the Standard; Haitian Revolution; America's Cup; First Geneva Convention; Holocaust of Kedros
Included: Chennai (3rd appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Siege of Fort Stanwix (first appearance); Rings of Neptune (first appearance); Pulkovo Aviation Enterprise Flight 612 (2nd appearance, last in 2010)
Repeats: Japan–Korea Treaty of 1910 (5th consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 05:17, 21 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

2013 notes edit

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Deleted: Althea Gibson (moved to August 25)
Omitted: Chennai; Siege of Fort Stanwix; Holocaust of Kedros; Pulkovo Aviation Enterprise Flight 612
Included: Battle of Bosworth Field (7th appearance, last in 2010); Quebec Expedition (first appearance); America's Cup (5th appearance, last in 2011); Nolan Ryan (4th appearance, last in 2006; rescued from Ineligible)
Repeats: Japan–Korea Treaty of 1910/Korea under Japanese rule (Treaty: 6th consecutive appearance, 6 total; Korea: 2nd appearance, last in 2007; Korea rescued from Ineligible)

—howcheng {chat} 07:17, 21 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

2014 notes edit

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Battle of Bosworth Field; Quebec Expedition; America's Cup; Japan–Korea Treaty of 1910/Korea under Japanese rule; Nolan Ryan
Included: First English Civil War (first appearance); First Geneva Convention (5th appearance, last in 2011; 150th anniversary); Michael Collins (Irish leader) (4th appearance, last in 2009; rescued from Ineligible); Holocaust of Kedros (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 70th anniversary); 2012–13 Tana River District clashes (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 06:53, 21 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

2015 notes edit

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Nolan Ryan (maintenance); Pulkovo Aviation Enterprise Flight 612 (maintenance)
Omitted: First English Civil War; First Geneva Convention; Michael Collins (Irish leader); Holocaust of Kedros
Included: Battle of the Standard (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Chennai (4th appearance, last in 2012); Haitian Revolution (6th appearance, last in 2011); Japan–Korea Treaty of 1910/Korea under Japanese rule (Treaty: 7th appearance; Korea: 3rd appearance; both last in 2013)
Repeats: 2012–13 Tana River District clashes (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:44, 20 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

2016 notes edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: First English Civil War (maintenance); First English Civil War (maintenance); Michael Collins (Irish leader) (maintenance)
New articles (ineligible): Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of the Standard; Chennai; Haitian Revolution (ineligible—maintenance); Japan–Korea Treaty of 1910/Korea under Japanese rule; 2012–13 Tana River District clashes
Included: Quebec Expedition (2nd appearance, last in 2013); Siege of Fort Stanwix (2nd appearance, last in 2012); First Geneva Convention (6th appearance, last in 2014); Holocaust of Kedros (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Ida Siekmann (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 10:56, 21 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

2017 notes edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Queen of Heaven (ineligible—maintenance); Madras Day (ineligible—maintenance); Quebec Expedition; Siege of Fort Stanwix; First Geneva Convention; Holocaust of Kedros
Included: Battle of Bosworth Field (8th appearance, last in 2013); 1851 America's Cup (first appearance; blurb previously featured America's Cup, which is currently ineligible); Japan–Korea Treaty of 1910 (8th appearance, last in 2013; blurb previously also featured Korea under Japanese rule, which is currently ineligible); 2015 Shoreham Airshow crash (first appearance); Isabella of France (first appearance); Thomas Tredgold (first appearance); Alexandros Kontoulis (first appearance)
Repeats: Ida Siekmann (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 03:57, 22 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

2018 notes edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (ineligible): Claude Debussy (TFA for 2018)
Omitted: Battle of Bosworth Field; 1851 America's Cup; Ida Siekmann; 2015 Shoreham Airshow crash; Isabella of France; Thomas Tredgold; Alexandros Kontoulis
Included: First English Civil War (2nd appearance, last in 2014; rescued from Ineligible); First Geneva Convention (7th appearance, last in 2016); British Airtours Flight 28M (first appearance); 2012–13 Tana River District clashes (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Luca Marenzio (first appearance); Bill Woodfull (first appearance); Norman Schwarzkopf Jr. (first appearance)
Repeats: Japan–Korea Treaty of 1910 (2nd consecutive appearance, 9 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:31, 22 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

2019 notes edit

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): John Dudley, 1st Duke of Northumberland; George Herriman; James Newland
Omitted: First English Civil War; First Geneva Convention; Japan–Korea Treaty of 1910; British Airtours Flight 28M; Luca Marenzio; Bill Woodfull; Norman Schwarzkopf Jr.
Included: Battle of the Standard (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Chennai (5th appearance, last in 2015); 1851 America's Cup (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Holocaust of Kedros (4th appearance, last in 2016; 75th anniversary); Isabella of France (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Claude Debussy (first appearance); Dorothy Parker (first appearance)
Repeats: 2012–13 Tana River District clashes (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:07, 23 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

2020 notes edit

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Japan–Korea Treaty of 1910 (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Madame Nhu
Omitted: Battle of the Standard; 1851 America's Cup; Holocaust of Kedros; 2012–13 Tana River District clashes; Isabella of France; Claude Debussy; Dorothy Parker
Included: Siege of Fort Stanwix (3rd appearance, last in 2016); First Geneva Convention (8th appearance, last in 2018); 2015 Shoreham Airshow crash (2nd appearance, last in 2017); John Dudley, 1st Duke of Northumberland (first appearance); James Newland (first appearance); Denton Cooley (first appearance; 100th birthday)
Repeats: Chennai (2nd consecutive appearance, 6 total)

—howcheng {chat} 16:16, 24 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

2021 notes edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Deleted: Haitian Revolution (moved to August 21)
Omitted: Chennai; Siege of Fort Stanwix; First Geneva Convention; 2015 Shoreham Airshow crash; John Dudley, 1st Duke of Northumberland; James Newland; Denton Cooley
Included: Battle of Bosworth Field (9th appearance, last in 2017); Quebec Expedition (3rd appearance, last in 2016); 1851 America's Cup (3rd appearance, last in 2019); Ida Siekmann (3rd appearance, last in 2017; 60th anniversary); British Airtours Flight 28M (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Maria Cunitz (first appearance); George Herriman (first appearance); Madame Nhu (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 07:23, 23 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

2022 notes edit

Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Battle of the Standard (maintenance); Holocaust of Kedros (maintenance); Dorothy Parker (maintenance)
Omitted: Quebec Expedition; 1851 America's Cup; Ida Siekmann; British Airtours Flight 28M; Maria Cunitz; George Herriman
Included: Chennai (7th appearance, last in 2020); Siege of Fort Stanwix (4th appearance, last in 2020); First Geneva Convention (9th appearance, last in 2020); 2015 Shoreham Airshow crash (3rd appearance, last in 2020); Claude Debussy (2nd appearance, last in 2019); Bill Woodfull (2nd appearance, last in 2018; 125th birthday)
Repeats: Battle of Bosworth Field (2nd consecutive appearance, 10 total); Madame Nhu (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:08, 7 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

2023 rationale edit

Latest comment: 8 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Avoided the 1985 entry as TFA is of a british airplane.
Being WP:BOLD with the image, if editors disagree with the choice, please use the skyline of Chennai as a replacement image.

Heart ^(talk) 02:03, 10 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

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