Wikipedia talk:File Upload Wizard

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Make it clear that text logos are public domainEdit

The text under "Non-free use rationale" -> "This is a logo of an organization, company, brand, etc." should be rewritten to something like this:

This is a logo of an organization, company, brand, etc.

This is an official logo of an entity that is the subject of a Wikipedia article. It will be included as that entity's primary means of visual identification, at the top of the article in question.

Note: many logos consisting only of text and simple geometric shapes are public domain and should be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons with the copyright tag {{pd-textlogo}}.

Note: If you plan to use it for any other purpose than this, please tick the box for "other non-free work" below.

Reasoning: many people incorrectly upload text logos here, when they should be uploaded to commons. It's not made clear that a significant portion of logos are actually public domain, and it'd be a good idea to let people know of it here. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 03:04, ≤27 December 2020 (UTC)

That sounds reasonable to me. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 04:12, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
EXCEPT that "simple" logos that are of, say, UK entities, where "sweat of the brow" is sufficient for copyrightability, this would not be appropriate. Eg, the example commons has for the UK is File:EDGE magazine (logo).svg which cannot be hosted at Commons but we can called here as {{PD-ineligible-USonly}}. So this is not great advice to add without adding lots of caveats about the sweat of the brow doctrine for common law countries. --Masem (t) 04:58, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Fair enough, I didn't consider that. Still, some mention (maybe logos for USA organizations consisting) seems appropriate. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 07:48, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
  Not done (for now) as this is still being discussed and a specific edit is not ready to go live. Please update the sandbox ([[[Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard/sandbox]]) and gain consensus for the change, then reactivate the edit request. — xaosflux Talk 15:53, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
@Xaosflux: I've made the change in the sandbox, with wording to clarify that logos in the USA are eligible. I think that should alleviate the concerns of Masem. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 18:54, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
I'd still be concerned this may be too much small print. The biggest danger in designing this form is information overload. Uploaders don't read small print, and if there's too much small print, they won't read anything at all, ignoring even the most important basics. It is absolutely crucial that everything in this form is kept on the simplest possible level, even at the cost of over-simplifying some of the rules. With the new distinctions between US and non-US textlogos, your new text is now describing an exception to an exception to an exception to an exception. Let's not do that. The chance that a significant number of users will act correctly on this is near zero. It's far better to have novices upload the occasional textlogo as non-free and then sort those cases out afterwards. Fut.Perf. 21:25, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Future Perfect at Sunrise fair enough. I know it would've helped me initially, which is why I suggested it, but most people indeed do not read the fine print. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 08:17, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
  Not done This still does not appear to be ready to go live, given Fut.Perf.'s concerns about adding additional complexity. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:22, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Change short descriptionEdit

From "Picture:File Upload Wizard" to something like "Local file upload for the English Wikipedia." That's just a suggestion though. I'm sure there are better possible short descriptions. Sam-2727 (talk) 01:33, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Sam-2727, good catch that the current description isn't really great. Since the opening page of the wizard includes a link to Commons, I'm a little concerned that saying "local file upload" might lead to some confusion. Would something like Wizard for uploading images and other files for Wikipedia work? I'm not exactly sure in what context the short description for this page might appear. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 04:46, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 Y Partly done I've defaulted it to the WD description of Wikimedia file upload wizard for now, @Sam-2727 and Sdkb: if you (and others) can agree on a better name feel free to reopen the edit request. — xaosflux Talk 12:20, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Xaosflux, thanks. That description works for me. Sam-2727 (talk) 16:35, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Looking back at the description of Sdkb a bit more, I would suggest shortening it a bit, to Wizard for uploading files to Wikipedia because short description guidelines suggest a short description below 40 characters. I believe the only context this would show up is on mobile search, so not that often. It was just bothering me when visiting the page that the short description was wrong. Sam-2727 (talk) 17:56, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Uploaded what nowEdit

This is mainly about Fair use logo for UK schools. I get through the procedure and press the upload button. I now see a blank page. Not particularly helpful. I scroll up the page and there I see the blue linked file name-- so what now. Ok I have done dozens of these uploads, everytime I now copy the new logo into the infobox on its named page. So what I want is an immediate confirmation below the upload button (maybe a fresh page) then two options. 1. Close this window. 2. Go to target page. Here the new file name will be slipped into the Ctrl-V buffer and then the target page will be opened. Have fun! --ClemRutter (talk) 11:01, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

The other minor point is preventing me uploading files that are too large for fair use. Could we do a file size check before upload or even resize the image down. Not urgent. --ClemRutter (talk) 11:01, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

The wizard definitely needs a more top-to-bottom redesign than the one we recently gave it. Hopefully that'll happen at some point (or better integrate the commons wizard), and hopefully those things will be addressed when it does. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 11:19, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
I didn't like this mornings change to the first page, where the the fair use button has disappeared of the bottom off the screen, and it is a mouse stroke to find it. Each time I do an upload I think as a 'trainer'. If I have a zoom-room- I said to my newbie, Go to that first page, there are two buttons, click on the second one, now answer the questions. I don't need extra complexity. ClemRutter (talk) 13:55, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

uploading book cover should automatically fill in two tagsEdit

When you upload an image and choose the option on the list that it is a book cover, it adds book cover to the Licensing section, but you then have to manually add two things to the Summary. It should automatically make Use = Infobox since there is no possible chance there would be anything else. The other required field is Article, which you could easily see which article it was just placed in, and if none found then have a message reminding people to add one. Covers of albums and video games and such I assume its the same thing. Dream Focus 01:53, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Help for broken script at tewikiEdit

Recent changes to handle deprecated variable of mw seem to have broken the script at tewiki( script accessed through file upload page, script talk page discussion). For uploading fair use files, even after filling the relevant fields, upload button does not turn on. Request help to address the issue. --Arjunaraoc (talk) 12:32, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Please ignore, as the error was because of a too short file name. --Arjunaraoc (talk) 12:36, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

ChangesEdit

On the JS page, ['cc-zero', 'CC-zero Universal Public Domain Dedication'] should be changed to ['self|cc-zero', 'CC-zero Universal Public Domain Dedication'] under 'OwnWorkLicense' in var licenseLists. The text The license agreement has been forwarded to Wikimedia's copyright service at "permissions-en@wikimedia.org". should be changed to The license agreement has been forwarded to Wikimedia's volunteer response team at "permissions-en@wikimedia.org". under this is a free work > given to me by its owner > evidence. The term is more accurate and sounds less buzzwordy in my opinion. Change This will be stored and displayed as part of the file description page. It is important that other editors be able to understand what this file is about. to This will be stored and displayed as part of the file description page. It is important that other editors are able to understand what this file is about. under step 2: describe your file, to fix grammer. Dylsss(talk contribs) 01:06, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Also apart from the changes above, the option I haven't got the evidence right now, but I will provide some if requested to do so. should probably be removed, or at least tag the image with {{Di-no permission}} automatically (though this seems pointless), the user should have emailed or be emailing WP:OTRS when they upload a file from someone else. Having "Evidence: Will be provided on request" added to the file is just wrong, there is no proof that the image is freely licensed from Wikipedia's point of view or as a reuser, what if the person is no longer active on Wikipedia? These should just be tagged with no permission manually so it doesn't make sense to have this as an option and gives the wrong impression to the uploader. Dylsss(talk contribs) 01:26, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
  Done the two wording changes. The edit to the JS page can only be done by an interface admin, so changing the request template accordingly. * Pppery * it has begun... 22:35, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
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