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Extensible Threat ManagementEdit

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Article apparently deleted by PROD already and so can't be deleted by PROD again? I don't see any deleted edits. Dictionary term is not notable. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:04, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

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OrgaEdit

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This article still fails to establish notability. TTN (talk) 19:55, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

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Comment: It's worth mentioning that this article might be able to survive if it is fleshed out a bit; the Godzilla franchise has been heavily covered by reliable reference books from the likes of Kodansha and Shogakukan from the Showa era right the way through to the present day, and Godzilla 2000 (and thus Orga by extension) has been covered by several more recent reference books as a result; Wikizilla and Toho Kingdom both cite these books, and provide reference lists which could be of use to potential editors.--BrayLockBoy (talk) 11:40, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
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Big PageEdit

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No evidence of any notability. Was nominated for a local award. No hits, no awards. Fails WP:SINGER. Searches reveal very little other than this article and social media  Velella  Velella Talk   23:04, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

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Albert MuemaEdit

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The player fails WP:NFOOTY as he hasn't played in a professional match yet. HawkAussie (talk) 05:48, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

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Nana Kwame WiafeEdit

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Dubious notability , over-emphasis on personal life and political ambitions, possibly promotional DGG ( talk ) 05:31, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep - Nana Kwame Wiafe is a well-known Ghanaian household name. From the article's references, you can tell of his notability. I do not get why the word 'Dubious' as used by DGG makes the article unfit for Wikipedia. There are several references from Google News to satisfy our doubts. An example of a dubious notable person from Ghana is this Geezygee (talk) 07:06, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
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Allies of the NightEdit

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Per WP:BEFORE searches, including custom searches, this book appears to fail WP:BOOKCRIT. Not finding independent significant coverage/book reviews, etc. in source searches to qualify notability. Also finding no evidence that this book meets any other of the criteria at WP:BOOKCRIT. North America1000 04:13, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

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Cylon RaiderEdit

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Fails WP:NFICTION/WP:GNG. Primary sources, description only. No indication of real world significance (through I am sure one could find a toy model or such with an accompanying press release or a blog review...). BEFORE fails to find any source that is not primary or in-passing. The three sources presented in the AfD 5 years ago (that nobody bothered to add to the article) are: mention in passing, one sentence long, that apparently someone build a big model and the two other links are broken now, but I think the second is a caption under a photo of the ship saying effectively it can be seen in the show and for the third one, if this is the working mirror, it seems like someone's three paragraph long blog post. The editors who tried to pass those as sufficient sources or who didn't bother to look at them should be promptly WP:TROUTed... Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:04, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

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Seraphs (Battlestar Galactica)Edit

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No indication this ficitonal concept passes WP:NFICTION or WP:GNG in general. The article is a pure description, with a mixture of primary sources and an interview or two with the show creators, but no source is in-depth in either case, the topic is just mentioned in passing most of the time. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:01, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

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LTL Mandarin SchoolEdit

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Another unremarkable language school with no claims to notability, failing to meet WP:GNG. It is clearly a business, rather than a public educational establishment, and should therefore meet WP:NCORP, which it fails to do. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a place for small companies to promote their businesses. Iamchinahand (talk) 03:50, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

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Akshay VarmaEdit

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 02:41, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

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The Evil OneEdit

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I found no significant coverage per WP:NF. SL93 (talk) 02:37, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

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Probit model for panel data with heterogeneity and endogenous explanatory variablesEdit

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I don't know how this one survived the first AfD nomination. It is hopelessly over-technical; something that (if at all) should be mentioned in a section in Probit model. Right now this is the econometrics equivalent of having an article iPhone 11 in yellow and with 256 GB storage on top of iPhone 11. bender235 (talk) 02:31, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Mark viking's comments seem beside the point in my opinion: nobody doubts that this particular model "is real and seems adequately referenced." It sure is, but it's an overly special corner case that does not merit its own article. Next thing we have an article on Tobit model in an unbalanced panel with interaction terms and so on. --bender235 (talk) 04:01, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Ace & SonEdit

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Per WP:BEFORE searches, including custom searches, this design and animation production company fails WP:CORPDEPTH. Additionally, source searches are providing very little content about this company in general, even in non-reliable sources. North America1000 02:31, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

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3G StudiosEdit

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Per WP:BEFORE searches, including custom source searches, this video game development company does not meet WP:CORPDEPTH. Most of the sources used in the article are unreliable relative to Wikipedia's required sourcing standards (WP:RS), and therefore do not contribute to notability, and source searches are only providing passing mentions. North America1000 02:05, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

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  • Delete. The most I can find in reliable sources is the firm hiring Drew Markham as president and firing him not eight months thereafter.[1][2][3] Other sources include "3G developed X / partnered with Y" (example), but all in all, nothing about this company satisfies WP:SIGCOV or WP:NCORP. Lordtobi () 07:03, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Sports Overnight AmericaEdit

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Long on information and name-dropping, clearly written by a fan (Former Major League Baseball players, Bill "Spaceman" Lee (who is a long time friend of Burke's) Jay Johnstone, and Fred Lynn have appeared on the show on a fairly regular basis to discuss the latest in MLB, as has former Columbo Family Mob Boss Michael Franzese. Christine Brennan from the USA Today are also contributors. One of his regular callers is Emperor Nobody, from Oakland, California. The Emperor brings a funny take on music and life issues not just sports, and much to the chagrin of former host, Chris Townsend, tends to agree with, and have much in common with Burke, when the topic of music is brought up.), no real notability other than airing on SiriusXM. The show is mentioned a lot in sporting articles, but not actually in any semblance of detail -- just "X said Y on Sports Overnight America" type blurbs. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 01:58, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Sammy Stone AtchisonEdit

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Nothing on Newspapers.com, American Radio History, etc. Sources are entirely primary. Billboard has nothing on the guy. No charted singles, only a passing mention in Record World, Passingly mentioned in some articles on Elvis, but most of this is just other people quoting him. Seems to be an utter failure of WP:NMUSIC. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 01:54, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

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Ten Pound HammerEdit

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Not a valid disambig since both refer to the same song. (It was also the B-side to "Cain's Blood" by 4 Runner.) The song does not seem to meet WP:NSONGS, so there's no way this could be fleshed out into an article. Since neither album seems a more valid redirect target than the other (and again, since there's a third version as well), there's really nothing to do here except deletion.

(also yes, I am very much aware of the irony of this nomination... where did you think my username came from?) Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 00:37, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

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File:Facepalm jeez.jpgEdit

File:Facepalm jeez.jpg (delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Spartaz (notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Image copied to Commons but a nocommons tag is present. No reason it can't exist there as a {{user page image}}. Magog the Ogre (tc) 01:54, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

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Category:Women recording artistsEdit

Nominator's rationale: As in other past cases of "recording artists" categories coming up at CFD, the distinction between a "recording artist" and a "musician" is not a useful or WP:DEFINING one for the category system to curate. While musicians do exist who do not record, it's difficult at best for such a musician to become notable enough for a Wikipedia article at all, given that our basic notability criteria for musicians mostly hinge on having some kind of recordings -- so by definition, the majority of musicians who have articles at all are going to be "recording artists", yet just 14 women have been selected here out of the literally thousands who could have been. Where's Kate Bush, for example? Or Whitney Houston, Lizzo, Serena Ryder, Madonna, Janelle Monae, Shakira, Adele, Kylie Minogue, Diamanda Galas, Céline Dion, and on and so forth into infinity? It's just not a useful or maintainable distinction. Bearcat (talk) 02:54, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Category:LGBT horror film directorsEdit

Nominator's rationale: The intersection of sexuality with a specific genre of film is not a WP:DEFINING characteristic for the purposes of the category tree. We don't have similar categories for any other genre of film; in fact, Category:LGBT directors isn't even subcategorized for the basic distinction between film, theatre and television directors at all, let alone for any particular genre of film, theatre or television. Bearcat (talk) 02:26, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Category:1820 Michigan electionsEdit

Nominator's rationale: Following precedent at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_December_10#1824_establishments_in_Michigan, the entity of Michigan did not exist in 1820, so it is incorrect to suggest Michigan held elections in 1820. Michigan Territory included all or parts of Michigan, Iowa, Wisconsin, Minnesota, North Dakota and South Dakota, and its elected officials therefore had jurisdiction over all or parts of those modern states. (Note: I am not proposing renaming Category:1835 Michigan elections or Category:1836 Michigan elections, even though Michigan did not achieve full statehood until 1837—those categories currently only contain elections from that portion of Michigan Territory that was pending statehood, so I believe the current category names apply.) Sarcasmboy (talk) 01:14, 17 October 2019 (UTC)



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Coalition ApplicationEdit

Suggested action: Delete unless someone intends to expand it into an article.

  1. The section this redirect refers to (now called "Technical Difficulties") makes no mention of the Coalition Application (though it did, briefly, at one point).
  2. The entire article barely mentions the Coalition Application.
  3. The Common Application is a competitor/alternative to the Coalition Application—redirecting there not only seems inappropriate, but would be highly confusing to readers.

Essentially, reason 10. I can see reason 7 as being a reason to avoid deleting it, but the redirect should not exist in its current state. Thtatithticth (talk) 05:54, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

  • Alternatively, the redirect link could be changed to the competition section, but I still don't think that it should link to that page at all. Thtatithticth (talk) 06:43, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Primitive Korean peninsula languageEdit

I think that this redirection is incorrect. Kim Bang-han proposed that primitive Korean peninsula language looks like paleoasian language. However, many linguists now believe that peninsular Japonic were formerly spoken in central and southern parts of the Korean peninsula. Furthermore, It was hypothesized that Proto-Koreanic language is a kind of paleosiberian languages(=paleoasian language). Sugyoin (talk) 05:35, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

  • Comment Typically, redirects for titles that don't have their own articles should go to whichever article covers those topics in the most detail. "Primitive Korean peninsula language" looks more like it refers to the ancestor of modern Korean rather than a hypothetical ancestor (cousin?) of modern Japanese that was once spoken on the Korean Peninsula. If you want to create a properly sourced article discussing the topic of early languages speculated to have once been spoken on the Korean Peninsula at the title, you are theoretically free to do so, but RFD is unlikely to help with that process. More likely, people will look at the wording of your proposal and oppose any change to the status quo because of the fact that Paleosiberian languages#Other languages currently appears to be the most appropriate redirect target. Hijiri 88 (やや) 05:43, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
  • No. See a Korean articles in some encyclopedia. "Primitive Korean peninsula language"(원시한반도어) means non-Koreanic languages that was once spoken on the Korean Peninsula. --Sugyoin (talk) 05:48, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
  • If we should not restore it to an article, I think that the best target is Peninsular Japonic. --Sugyoin (talk) 05:53, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

E WarrenEdit

Elizabeth is not the only or even most prominent "E. Warren". A WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT is not possible due to the prominence of Chief Justice Earl Warren. I'm not sure how plausible of a search term this is due to the formatting, but this should either be deleted or retargeted to Warren (name). -- Tavix (talk) 02:29, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete or Retarget to Warren (name)#Surname (and do the same with E. Warren) I'm not even American and before even reading Tavix's second sentence my mind immediately jumped to Earl Warren. Arguably within a 2019 US political context Elizabeth Warren is the most prominent, but unless she is elected POTUS (and perhaps not even then) that's not going to be true in the long term, and almost certainly is not true now outside of the United States. Hijiri 88 (やや) 03:08, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Draft:A-Force (film)Edit

Forgive me if I'm wrong (am I?) but redirects are normally intended to assist in navigation, and redirecting a title beginning "Draft:" with a hypothetical future title for the incomplete article that is currently still in the draft space doesn't seem helpful. Nothing in the current draft article actually implies that the future film will be titled A-Force, and even if it were this redirect would not serve any real purpose in either the long or the short run, since the title would ultimately be A-Force (film) anyway. Theoretically the draft title could be anything, even something that violates V, NOR, and CRYSTAL, and so the current redirect could just be made the draft page pending an actual title announcement, but I don't see any point having a draft article in the draft space with a separate redirect also in the draft space. Hijiri 88 (やや) 01:50, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

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