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Dęblin–Irena Ghetto edit

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Nominator(s): Buidhe (talk)

Dęblin–Irena Ghetto (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I think this article meets the A-class criteria and I'm hoping to get some feedback in order to polish it for a future FAC. Dęblin–Irena was an anomaly in the history of the Holocaust in Poland. While 99% of the Jews in surrounding areas were murdered, in Dęblin–Irena the chance of surviving was as high as ten percent. The article explains why. (In short: some were able to make themselves indispensable to the Luftwaffe, which had a key airfield nearby, and this prevented them from being murdered.) Thanks in advance. buidhe 01:34, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

CommentsSupport by CPA-5 edit

Because I have Polish ancestry it's my duty to review this nomination as soon as possible. Am happy another concentration camp in modern-day Poland is nominated for A- and maybe later FA-class. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 20:52, 2 March 2020 (UTC) Lead[reply]

  • Dęblin–Irena was a Nazi ghetto for Jews in Irena (merged into nearby Dęblin in 1953), a Polish town located in the Lublin District I'm a little bit confused here. First why is this article called "Dęblin–Irena" if the Ghetto was only in Irena? Or is this the most commonly used term in the source?
    • Only one source has "Irena" and several have "Dęblin", while others call it "Dęblin–Irena" so that seemed a reasonable compromise between commonname and historical accuracy.
  • In 1942, two thousand Jews arrived from Slovakia and hundreds more from nearby ghettos that had been liquidated Pipe Slovakia to the First Slovak Republic.
  • The first deportation was on 6 May 1942 and took around 2,500 Jews to Sobibór extermination camp --> "The first deportation was in May 1942 and took around 2,500 Jews to Sobibór extermination camp"
    • Done
  • In October 1942, the ghetto was liquidated; about 2,500 Jews were deported --> "In October that same year, the ghetto was liquidated; about 2,500 Jews were deported"
    • Done
  • retained as inmates of forced-labor camps Link forced-labor camps.
    • I don't see how that article (Labor camp) would be helpful to understanding this subject. In my opinion, "forced-labor camp" is pretty self explanatory.
  • To me, it shouldn't be helpful to understand the subject, this might be a common term but sometimes common terms like this use information which most of the readers don't know. Like an example do you know when the first labour camp was in use? I don't think so, that's why it might be helpful to link it. If you disagree I'm fine with that because this is just my view about labour camps.

Background

  • Dęblin and Irena (Yiddish: מאדזשיץ‎, Modzhitz)[3] are located 68.7 kilometres (42.7 mi) northwest of Lublin in Poland In this sentence you used British kilometres and it's a little bit weird that both towns have only one word in Yiddish?
    • As stated below the two towns were long considered one unit. The majority of sources imply that the Yiddish word covered the entire area although some state that it was just one neighborhood.
    • Fixed British spelling
  • and at an important point on the Lublin–Warsaw rail line Was this an important station or an important rail intersection?
    • Both, but the junction was more important, I think
  • The two municipalities, having long been considered one unit, were officially merged in 1953. Weird spot to have this sentence in the background, I'd put them in the aftermath except you have a good reason?
    • I think it helps explain the confusion between Dęblin and Irena in many of the sources. Moved to footnote.
  • Local Jews supported the January Uprising of 1863 --> "Local Jews supported the January Uprising in 1863"
    • Done
  • Modzitz Rebbe Yisrael Taub settled in the town in 1889.[6][5] Re-oder the refs here.
    • Done
  • later participated in the development of the town as a summer resort.[7][3] Same as above.
    • Done
  • In 1927, the civilian population of Dęblin and Irena was 4,860, including 3,060 Jews You mean populations?
    • I think both of these are technically correct. The first usage seems to be more common.
  • Since 1927, Dęblin housed the Polish Air Force Academy --> "Dęblin also housed the Polish Air Force Academy in that same year"
    • I think that your suggestion would be confusing. The Polish Air Force Academy was founded in 1927.
  • the airfield was one of the largest in Poland. --> "its airfield was one of the largest in Poland."
    • Done
  • During the German invasion of Poland, the Luftwaffe bombed Dęblin between 2 and 7 September Add the year here?
    • Done
  • Link Polish Army
    • Done
  • on 11 September the remaining Polish forces detonated the ammunition and withdrew[10] The Wehrmacht arrived on 12 or 20 September --> "on 11 September the remaining Polish forces detonated their ammunition and withdrew,[10] while on the 12th or the 20th the Germans arrived in the region" and pipe German to Nazi Germany.
    • I don't think that's an improvement. "Germans" is less specific than "Wehrmacht" and the suggested sentence structure reads awkwardly to me.
  • community was forced to pay a fine of 20,000 złoty.[4][11][3] Re-order the refs.
    • Done
  • The Judenrat ("Jewish Council") was formed at the end of 1939[4][3] Same as above and change "1939" to "the year".
    • Done
  • later than other Judenräte in the region I assume "Judenräte" is the plural form of "Judenrat"?
    • Yes
  • conscripted for forced labor in Janiszów, Bełżec, and Pawłowice Link these places.
    • Done
  • The first chair of the Judenrat, Leizer Teichman, and the secretary were expelled in 1941 You mean chairman?
    • Yes, the words are synonymous
  • and then a Konin native named Drayfish in September 1941 Remove the year here.
    • Not done—although the last reference is to 1941, I think this could lead to confusion.

The rest will follow soon. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 21:25, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Staromiejska Street was removed from the ghetto in September 1942; its residents moved to Bankowa Why was it removed?
    • None of the sources say
  • so many of the Jews were able to survive by trading material goods for food With the Poles?
    • Yes, clarified this
  • A Polish-language secular school, run by Aida Milgroijm-Citronbojm, instructed 70 to 100 pupils When?
    • I would guess that this occurred throughout the existence of the ghetto, but this is not made explicit.
  • In late 1941, Poles were banned from entering the ghetto Wait a second in the above paragraph you told that Poles were allowed to enter and live in the ghetto why does this sentence do not support this, this doesn't make sense? Also we should go chronically because here we have a sentence about late 1941 but this sentence "Staromiejska Street was removed from the ghetto in September 1942;" tells us it's not chronically?
    • I'm not being completely chronological here, but a mix of chronological and topical. If I moved the second part about the boundaries changing, I feel that would be more confusing because readers would have to check back to find out what Staromiejska Street was. The first paragraph deals with the original situation/overview; the second discusses changes that happened in late 1941/early 1942.
  • at a thirty-bed hospital run by Dr. Isaar Kawa from Konin; See MOS:DOCTOR and what kinda doctor?
    • Fixed MOS. Source doesn't say.
  • some Jews fled to towns there including Dęblin–Irena;[19] twenty Jews were shot for being unregistered refugees When?
    • Source doesn't say explicitly but it is in the section dealing with late 1941/early 1942.
  • The Judenrat's command altered again as Drayfish was executed, accused of filing complaints with the Puławy County administration Name is needed here.
    • I'm not sure whose name you're looking for? Source says "In April 1942, Drayfish, among a group of local Jews sent to a penal camp in Kazimierz Dolny reportedly for registering complaints with the Pulawy Kreishauptmann’s office, was shot. Timber merchant Yisrael Weinberg replaced him."
  • These consisted mainly of Jews expelled from Puławy Ghetto and the Warthegau region Where was the Puławy Ghetto?
  • On 13 and 14 May 1942, two transports of 2,042 Slovak Jews arrived from Prešov.[20][18] Link Slovak Jews and re-oder the refs.
    • Done
  • These included 300 people from Ryki, 300 from Gniewoszów and Zwoleń, and a group from Stężyca A group of how many?
    • Not known.
  • In August 1942, 5,800 Jews were reported to be living in the ghetto, of whom only 1,800 were from Dęblin Remove the year here the last time mentioned date also used 1942 so I think it's clear to the readers.
    • Done

More coming. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 17:06, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I don't really have the time to continue this. 'Cause of our lockdown, school and real life issues I won't be that much online for a week or longer. :/ Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 22:30, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • There's WP:NODEADLINE. Thanks for your comments and I hope your real life issues resolve in your favor. buidhe 22:35, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Forced labor

  • Until late 1942, Jews earned wages as forced laborers I assume they got low wages paid?
    • That's the implication, although it's not stated explicitly.
  • Many were conscripted to work for German companies such as Schwartz and Hochtief They were specialised in?
    • Reworded this part
  • Schultz was under contract for construction on the Ostbahn.[24][13] Re-order the refs here.
    • Done
  • The municipality conscripted other Jews for tasks such as street cleaning or snow clearing; these workers were not paid I would move this sentence to the first one and add "with exceptions to tasks such as street cleaning and snow clearing; these workers were not paid" These workers weren't paid even before late 1942; I think this needs clarification.
    • Reworded
  • The Jews from Dęblin–Irena tried to take the best jobs, so 200 of the Slovak --> "The Jews from Dęblin–Irena tried to take the best jobs; 200 of the Slovak"
    • Done
  • so 200 of the Slovak deportees ended up working for the municipality. Another 200 of the Slovaks worked for the Schultz firm following an expansion Do we know who they were? Communists, Jews, Poles or others?
    • The only Slovaks mentioned in this article are the Slovak Jews who were deported from Presov in May, which is discussed in the paragraph immediately preceding this section. Do you think this would benefit from additional clarification here?
  • Survivors recalled that although German soldiers supervising the forced laborers tended to treat them relatively well, some Polish supervisors beat Jews, and the Ukrainian guards at the railway camp were especially harsh This doesn't look neutral in my view; in the last few years Isreal and Poland had a controversial topic about the Holocaust. Especially when Israelians call those camps Polish after the Polish Government passed a law which would criminalise the use of the expressions "Polish death camp" and "Polish concentration camp" or Poles collaborated with the Nazis. Even if it was written by a professor I think (and I try to be neutral here) a second independent source who supports Farkash's claims is needed. And probably because this is a controversial topic without a second independent source it'd probably be removed by someone who thinks this claim is "bull shit".
    • All this says is that the postwar testimony of survivors stated something, which could be verified by looking at the individual testimonies that Farkash cites. Furthermore, the German soldiers were in this case Wehrmacht troops, and there's evidence that Wehrmacht soldiers did not mistreat Jewish forced laborers as much as the SS. This sentence has already been discussed on the talk page and was kept in.
  • Jews had to work twelve hours a day, but were treated relatively well by the Luftwaffe personnel This is the second time that let's say Germans treated the Jews relatively well; maybe add the "Luftwaffe" to "although German soldiers supervising the forced laborers tended to treat them relatively well".
    • Removed as redundant.
  • Link typhus epidemic (it has a separate article then typhus itself).
  • Epidemic typhus not.
  • "Epidemic typhus" refers to a specific type of typhus, rather than typhus epidemics.

More is coming. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 10:18, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • I look forward to it! Thanks again. buidhe 21:18, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

First deportation (6 May 1942)

  • The first deportation was on 6 May 1942,[30][18] Re-order the refs here.
    • Done
  • Slovak deportees who arrived a week later.[31][18][32] Same as above.
    • Done
  • Jews to assemble in the main square at 09:00 hours Hours isn't needed.
    • Removed
  • Most of the Jews from neighboring communities Does this sentence miss something?
    • Removed, as it is discussed in the next paragraph
  • and 2,300 to 2,500 from Dęblin—mainly the elderly --> "and 2,300–2,500 from Dęblin—mainly the elderly"
    • Not done.
  • fter the deportation, the bodies of the dead were collected at the synagogue and removed from the ghetto in carts To where?
    • Source doesn't say.
  • deportations in the Lublin district --> "deportations in the Lublin District" Proper noun?
    • Capitalized

That's it for now; more coming. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 16:04, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Second deportation (15 October 1942)

  • I'm not sure why the dates are needed in both the First and Second deportation?
    • I thought that the dates were helpful, but since you disagree I've removed them.
  • Under the command of SS-Obersturmführer Grossman; gendarmes Did Nazi Germany had a gendarme?
    • I wasn't sure exactly what force Crago was referring to, so I followed the source.
  • Many Jews tried to enter the Luftwaffe camp I'm a little bit confused why they did that?
    • Clarified
  • Talia Farkash estimates that about 500, including 60–90 young children A little introduction of hers is helpful?
    • Moved descriptor to first mention
  • were shot while clearing the houses.[18][10] Re-order the refs here.
    • Done
  • about 100 total --> "about 100 in total"
    • Done
  • retained to clean up the ghetto.[18][10] Re-order the refs here.
    • Done
  • Perhaps another 100 Jews were hiding illegally in the ghetto
    • I'm not sure what change you're suggesting here?
  • Oops, I forgot to add the question here. How can Jews illegally hide in their own ghetto? Didn't they want to work? And if they hide weren't the Germans not hunting them?
  • The Germans ordered all the Jews to report and be deported; these are those who refused without permission. Changed "illegaly" to "without permission" to make this more clear. The Germans were probably looking for them.[original research?]
  • Dęblin Fortress and 200–500 of the Luftwaffe's workers.[18][10] --> "Dęblin Fortress and 200–500 of the Luftwaffe's workers.[18][10]" Re-oder the refs here.
    • Done
  • Estimates of the number at the Luftwaffe camp range frmo 1,000 (Encyclopedia of Camps and Ghettos) A from typo here.
    • Fixed
  • rest were deported in late 1943.[18][10] Re-order the refs here.
    • Done
  • hundreds of Jews were still alive, they were murdered during Operation Harvest Festival Because this was part of an operation I'd change "murdered" to "killed".
    • The operation was exclusively to murder Jews.

More coming. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 11:41, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Camp leader

  • The camp leader (German: Lagerälteste) at the Luftwaffe Unlink German because it's too common.
    • Done
  • Is there a better picture than this "File:UT_2_w_Szkole_Orlat_w_Deblinie.jpg"? It doesn't really make sense to add an image about the Polish Air Force in the town in 1947 if we are talking about the camp leader and the conditions.
    • That was the closest in time photograph that I could find of the airfield, which I think is good to show a picture of. You can see other photographs of the airfield in Commons:Category:Lotnicza Akademia Wojskowa, although many of them are under dubious licensing. There are no free German photographs that I'm aware of.

More coming. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 12:33, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Conditions

  • good compared to other camps.[48][42] Re-order the refs.
  • were allowed to practice their religion.[49][29] Same as above.
  • The children received education in Polish, but had to hide when the SS conducted inspections This is so confusing; they received education by whom?
    • Clarify
  • with the camp command was partially responsible for the good conditions What was the other responsible part?
    • Farkash is vague on this point, and I think it would be misreprenting her to say that it was entirely responsible, but she doesn't explicitly mention any other factors.
  • What's a Volkesdeutscher?
  • friction between the two communities.[55][27] Re-order the refs.

More coming. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 15:43, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Aftermath

  • it was illegal for them to settle in town --> "it was illegal for them to settle in the town"
    • Done
  • prisoner of the ghetto,[18][10] Re-order the refs here.

Second review

  • It looks like that the lead doesn't summarise the background, Ghetto, Forced labor and the Aftermath section which it should by MOS:LEAD.
    • Done
  • pay a fine of 20,000 złoty.[5][4][12] Re-order the refs here and do we know how much that is in the major currencies (US dollar, Euro or British pounds) today?
    • It's very difficult to say given the unsettled situation of the Polish currency just after the German invasion, before a fixed exchange rate (with reichsmarks) was established.
  • consisting of local Volksdeutsche and Ukrainian auxiliaries Can you add here a note what Volksdeutsche means?
    • done
  • the Dęblin train station (some 2.5 kilometers (1.6 mi) away) Per MOS:UNITNAMES; this is the second time we mention here km fully written.
    • done
  • received kosher food for the week of Passover.[52][44] Re-order the refs here.
  • Link Sergeant Major.
    • done

That's it I believe. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 14:54, 15 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

    • Thanks so much for your review; I have made the requested changes.
  • I'd like to support this article but I first want to see if PM's comments could be addressed and become a support. Originally their comments were also my comments but I dropped them because he already comment it and I'm not gonna comment something which is already mentioned by another review. But he got a point and I believe their comments should be first addressed before I could give you my support. Anything else looks great. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 19:31, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    CPA-5, As I stated below, I don't think the ghetto and labor camp are independently notable from each other, or that a split would improve the article. I'm happy to retitle to something like The Holocaust in Dęblin–Irena or History of the Jews in Dęblin–Irena (1939–1945) but both these titles are basically WP:OR as sources don't use them. buidhe 23:57, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Long time no see Buidhe, hopefully you are all right? But that's true and sadly sometimes OR is needed to settle down the discussion or follow the guidelines. Of course I'm not saying that ORs' titles like those are needed here and now. Anyway, the title was, in general, okay to me and all my comments are now addressed; which means I can give it a support. Am happy to see another Polish Holocaust article getting an FA-class (and hopefully it will maintain like that). Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 10:30, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Piotrus edit

I have reviewed this before GA, and the article is still solid. There was some sock activity in early January but I think the sock has been weeded out in a wide range proxy range ban, so the article is stable. I am still mildly concerned whether the aftermath section isn't overly detailed, and would welcome further comments on this. Still, I cannot figure out which article any of the information from it would belong instead, and it would be a shame to lose referenced content. So right now I don't have any changes to suggest, nor errors to point out. Good job :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:59, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, since the last review the article name has been changed, I would like to hear the rationale, since none is given on article's talk. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:37, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Piotrus: Both CPA-5 and Peacemaker67 objected to the fact that the article's content did not exactly match what the title suggested it would be. This is a fair objection, but it wouldn't be appropriate to split the article because 1) any split would involve large amounts of duplication and 2) the ghetto and Luftwaffe camp are not independently notable and 3) it would lead to the deletion of encyclopedic material, for instance on the other labor camps besides the Luftwaffe camp or detail on deportations which passed through Deblin. (t · c) buidhe 01:51, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the explanation. I have no objections or concerns to raise. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:07, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Image review - pass edit

All images are appropriately licenced, positioned, captioned and alt texted. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:24, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reluctant opposeCommentsSupport by PM edit

Great work on this so far, but I am having trouble with what the scope of the article is. I have a few comments:

  • the Background section goes into things that happened after the ghetto was established (in the last para). I suggest moving this down into the Ghetto section and integrating it with the material in that section
    • Not done—since sources disagree over which of the Judenrat were in charge at one time, splitting this material up would increase confusion.
  • Sonderdienst means "special service" (dienst meaning service) not "special forces" (Spezialeinheiten) which has a totally different connotation relating to elite troops.
    • Fixed
  • suggest "local Volksdeutsche who were later supplemented by Ukrainian auxiliaries recruited after the Axis invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941."
    • Source doesn't say so, so it would be original research
  • "More Jews arrived in May 1941: 1,000 from the ghettos at Warsaw, Częstochowa, and Opole, although they were not housed in the ghetto but at work sites in the area" really isn't about this ghetto
  • "On 13 and 14 May 1942, two transports totalling 2,042 Slovak Jews"
    • Done
  • link Hochtief
    • Done
  • The Forced labor section is all over the place chronologically, and also strays from sticking to information about the ghetto and its occupants, and seems to refer to other forced labor camps and projects in the district for which the link to the ghetto isn't clear
    • All the camps were located in the town of Deblin/Irena.
  • this also applies in the Deportation, murder, and liquidation section, where there are details of deportations from places other than this ghetto
    • I do think it's relevant to mention deportations that passed through the town in a substantial way and would have been noticed by the local Jews, and to contexualize the deportation of Irena's Jews as part of a systematic operation.
  • was the Luftwaffe camp part of the ghetto? The ghetto has been defined in geographical terms earlier, and doesn't appear to include the Luftwaffe camp
  • I'm reluctantly putting this review on hold as an oppose, because I don't think it sticks to the existing scope of the ghetto, and ranges across Holocaust-related activities throughout the district or region, including Jews who were apparently never held in the ghetto and forced laborers who didn't live in the ghetto. I suggest it be trimmed down to focus much more closely on ghetto-related material only, or properly expanded to cover all Holocaust-related activities in the district or region, with appropriate retitling. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:30, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • I considered a split, but I'm not sure that either the ghetto or the Luftwaffe forced-labor camp are independently notable, since there is only one source which goes into detail on the ghetto and two for the forced labor camp. Such a split would also require duplicating a lot of material. I am happy to retitle but I don't think a title such as "The Holocaust in Dęblin–Irena" would be suitable since it does not occur in any of the sources and I've never seen such a descriptor applied to towns (only countries and regions). buidhe 22:20, 25 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • How's the review going PM? A couple of weeks have been passed without any replies here? This just reminds me I should continue mine too. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 18:52, 11 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Retitle edit

I've retitled the article "History of the Jews in Dęblin–Irena during World War II" and rewritten the lead to address the scope concerns. @Peacemaker67 and CPA-5: Thanks so much for your comments, I wonder if you would consider supporting? Thanks, buidhe 21:33, 24 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'll have another look. I'm conscious that this is getting a bit old, and that I'm procrastinating about several of your noms. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:47, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I really appreciate your feedback, you always have something helpful to say. buidhe 03:23, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Restart
  • the scope issue is resolved as far as I am concerned
  • Slovakia needs a link in the lead, as does Austria (suggest Austria under National Socialism
    • Done
  • "Thousands of Jews lived in the towns" as we are talking about two municipalities at the time
    • done
  • "became a collection centers"
    • done
  • you could link Lublin District
    • done
  • "returned to the towns"
    • Reworded
  • link Vistula
    • Not done, already linked at first mention in Background section
  • The Wehrmacht arrived - I think you mean the German Army? Unless the Luftwaffe also arrived?
    • Done. (Source actually says Wehrmacht but it's being used as a synonym for the German Army)
  • just be consistent with the hyphenation of compound adjectives like forced-labor ie "forced labor units"
    • done
  • move the link to Konin to first mention
    • Done
  • suggest "and after the ghetto was established, warned residents of searches" as the ghetto hasn't been mentioned to this point
    • Done
  • link Warsaw District
    • These are references to the city, linked to that.
  • do you mean "winter clothing requisitionedconfiscated"?
    • done
  • "twenty young women being shot" when?
  • "twenty Jews were shot" when?
    • The source doesn't say exactly when these events happened, but implies that it happened over the winter of 1941–1942.
  • link Puławy County
    • Not done because our article on Puławy County is a new administrative division (since 1999) that does not include Deblin (which is currently in Ryki County). I think a link would be more confusing than helpful especially since neither article has any information on the Nazi administration in the area.
  • suggest using "German-annexed Reichsgau Wartheland" instead of Warthegau region
    • Done
  • when referring to Dęblin or Irena do you mean Dęblin–Irena? Suggest being consistent and using the hyphenated one
    • Well, both the ghetto and the Luftwaffe camp were in Irena, so deleted many of the references to Deblin and made sure that references were consistent.
  • "the Ukrainian guards at the railway camp were especially harsh" what railway camp? First mention I can see
    • Clarified
  • suggest linking Ukrainian Auxiliary Police
    • Done
  • link SS
  • link Obersturmführer
    • done
  • "About 215 to 500 Jews were shot while the Germans and their helpers were clearing the houses"
    • Done
  • "Estimates of the number at the Luftwaffe camp range from 1,000 (Encyclopedia of Camps and Ghettos)[17] to 2,000 (Silberklang),[28]"
    • Done
  • Poniatowa→ Poniatowa concentration camp
    • Done
  • suggest "Hundreds of Jews were still alive in the remaining labor camps in Puławy County, but they were murdered during Operation Harvest Festival (2–3 November 1943)."
    • Done
  • for collaborator link collaborationism
    • Done
  • suggest Shabbat→the Sabbath, as that is by far the most common word used in English
    • Not for the Jewish Sabbath, which is overwhelmingly called "Shabbat" in English-language sources.
  • do the sources say what sergeant major rank these men were? Stabsfeldwebel?
    • Unfortunately, they just say "Sergeant Major" without further clues.
  • drop the comma from "Although Kattengel was distrusted, because he roamed the camp with a dog and whip"
    • Done
  • link Red Army
    • Done
  • "being run by the WehrmachtLuftwaffe"
    • No, the source specifically states "Wehrmacht"
  • "Milicja Obywatelska police chief"
    • done
  • suggest adding that Brandt was tried by a Soviet military court and shot
    • Done
  • you may not have any another image for the top, but the top image would be better in the relevant section
    • since most readers won't read past the lead, I think it's better to keep the image where it will be seen.

That's it. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:37, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Source review - pass edit

The sources are almost entirely scholarly, the trivial exceptions are used appropriately. The article appears to be well sourced. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:32, 30 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.