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June 1 edit

Template:Lehigh Mountain Hawks men's ice hockey navbox edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 21:27, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Only 2 season links and 1 former rink link. No main article exists. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:26, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What's the minimum amount of links needed for a navbox then? PensRule11385 (talk) 14:42, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:101-in-1 edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 21:02, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There are only two games in the series, and they link to each other anyway, so I do not think we need this. QuicoleJR (talk) 18:50, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:2016–17 Top 14 Table edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 21:01, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I merged these with the parent articles so individual templates are no longer needed. Frietjes (talk) 17:07, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Skrapar District edit

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The result of the discussion was delete Skrapar District without replacement. Izno (talk) 21:12, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Skrapar District with Template:Skrapar div.
I don't see why these two both exist, can someone enlighten me? Joy (talk) 14:05, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Rail transport in Israel edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:01, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Navbox is redundant to Template:Transport in IsraelDream out loud (talk) 09:18, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On the contrary, Template:Transport in Israel is becoming too cluttered and needs to be broken up. Compare e.g. Template:Transportation in Romania. Most countries do not seem to have a universal transport navbox at all. Tietokannat (talk) 09:12, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Ohlone2 edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 11:58, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Single non-mainspace use. Subst and delete. Izno (talk) 09:15, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Nawabs of Qasimabad edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 11:57, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Single use template. Remove the collapsing and navbar and then subst and delete. Izno (talk) 09:14, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:ROC Other Ranks edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 11:56, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Single use table template. Subst to article and delete template. Gonnym (talk) 08:45, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox Canadian football team edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 11:53, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Recently created and used in one page (which replaced an existing infobox template). Replace with Template:Infobox football club. Any changes needed can be requested at the standard template page. Gonnym (talk) 08:30, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Egyptian name edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 12:07, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Unused, including all subtemplates other than in creator's sandbox and a failed MoS proposal. Seems that usage of the standard lang templates would be better anyways. Gonnym (talk) 08:25, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Infobox file display edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 13:48, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure this is just a duplicate of the more-used and better named {{image frame}} (which I think also has the appropriate parameters). I might suggest, based on what I see in its uses, that it might just be better unused at all, but at least none of those uses are in the mainspace today... Izno (talk) 08:19, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: most (or all) usages seem to be from Module:Excerpt/portals (line 358). Gonnym (talk) 08:39, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I initially made this template as part of this discussion, since I couldn't find anything that already did what I needed, and it is currently used by Module:Excerpt/portals. I've just done some quick testing in the sandbox and it appears {{Image frame}} likely serves a close enough purpose to work for this after some messing with the parameters, so I'd be fine to delete this in favour of {{Image frame}}. Aidan9382 (talk) 08:44, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I think it might make more sense just to move this into the module rather than reusing the template, since I did notice that this seemed to be mostly driven by the module of interest (and convert any other uses to image frame). It's sufficiently simple that the tiny duplication is worth the likely speedup of not needing to call from the module into the PHP preprocessor to expand these templates while also making what the module is doing simpler in general. (I see you've already made an adjustment in the sandbox to use the one template.)
I identified this template in work to remove infobox, so that would need to change going down that path, likely with a Module:Excerpt/portals/styles.css. Izno (talk) 15:55, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Izno and Aidan9382: I boldly replaced the call in the module with a call to infobox here, but didn't go as far creating 'Module:Excerpt/portals/styles.css' to bypass infobox entirely. if this causes problems, feel free to revert. if it doesn't cause problems, but you know how to improve what I have done, feel free to do that as well. Frietjes (talk) 15:52, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Frietjes, Aidan already sandboxed the other replacement and just hasn't merged it live. Izno (talk) 15:56, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've gone ahead and merged it now so as not to hold the discussion up. The infobox module method could be worth testing, but needs some more fine tuning first to match existing behaviour. Aidan9382 (talk) 16:04, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
lol, the infobox module method produced identical output to the existing, while {{image frame}} creates a white background and grey border around the image. but, if people like that better, fine with me. Frietjes (talk) 16:39, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The main reason I put in the image frame version in is because it works - the infobox version was producing the wrong alignment. I'd be for an implementation of it since it looks the same, it just needs more testing first (which I may pick up later, assuming I find the time). Aidan9382 (talk) 16:43, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Frietjes, I personally prefer to use the template that best matches the intent. Image frame is that template, not infobox. Izno (talk) 16:55, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
why do you need to use {{image frame}} at all here? the intent of {{image frame}} is to take things that aren't images (or multiple images) and make it look like a thumb image. here we have a single image with a caption. seems more complicated that it needs to be with an unnecessary call back to template space. Frietjes (talk) 16:59, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with that criticism. :) Izno (talk) 17:00, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The reason for not using regular file captions originated from this discussion (specifically this test case) in which they weren't displaying like they did in the page they're from (since regular file captions dont support some syntaxes like * lists) Aidan9382 (talk) 17:21, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
some string processing could fix that, replacing the * with <li>...</li>. see wikitextToHtmlList in Module:Excerpt slideshow, for example. Frietjes (talk) 17:37, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Missions to the outer Solar System edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 11:50, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Single-use not in mainspace template. Should be substed and deleted. Izno (talk) 08:16, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Hyperfocal distance depth of field using EasyTimeline edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 11:49, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Single mainspace use template. Should be substed and deleted. Izno (talk) 08:13, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Taxobox/TeleTaxo edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 11:46, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Created as an example in 2008 and unused in mainspace since. Izno (talk) 08:07, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Ukiyo-e imagebox edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. I am merging this with the article, but please feel free to replace it with {{multiple image}} or {{gallery}} or another option if there is something better. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 13:47, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Single-use template. Could either be substed and deleted or simply replaced with {{multiple image}} or another gallery equivalent and then deleted. Izno (talk) 07:58, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete Replace with another gallery format. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:11, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Replace with <gallery>...</gallery> or {{Multiple image}}, subst and delete template. I personally find it to be too many images at the start of the page. A gallery will allow the images to stand apart from one another. Gonnym (talk) 17:47, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • The template was created because {{multiple image}} and other templates did not handle the particular gallery well. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 04:18, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article is on an extremely broad subject spanning centuries, and already has numerous galleries. The purpose of the infobox is to give a taste of the breadth of the subject as part of the lead. This was not found problematic at the article's GA or FA reviews, or at any other time, and is an extremely weak argument, regardless, that ignores the context of why it was done in the first place. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 04:18, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. The template has not drawn any concerns in its decade of existence, even after the article appeared as a TFA. What is this accomplishing? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble!
  • Delete. If {{Multiple image}} doesn't provide the preferred layout, then a manually-made collage uploaded to Commons might suffice. (Or making a collage of the three tricky images and using Multiple image for the rest.) Regardless, the images shouldn't be links. SWinxy (talk) 19:33, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • delete after replacement. as stated above, if {{multiple image}} doesn't support the layout, you can upload a hand-made collage. Frietjes (talk) 23:05, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Frietjes: RE: "you"—I've retired, so what you're saying is nobody will take the responsibility of ensuring the article doesn't get butchered. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 08:28, 17 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Unreferenced BLPs edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 11:44, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Template is no longer meaningfully used since 2013ish with the deactivation of the bot. Users should either use the suggested link or simply link to their potentially-created report. Izno (talk) 07:57, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:TAFI Nom edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 02:07, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions. If it was ever used, it appears to have been superseded by a more functional template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:07, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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