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August 21 edit

Template:Igloo topicon edit

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 August 29. Primefac (talk) 01:33, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:OnlyOffline edit

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 August 29. Primefac (talk) 01:34, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Technology topics edit

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2020 August 29. Primefac (talk) 01:35, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Cognition, perception, emotional state and behaviour symptoms and signs edit

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Disorders of consciousness per the proposal. Primefac (talk) 16:07, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Template:Cognition, perception, emotional state and behaviour symptoms and signs with Template:Disorders of consciousness.
I propose move the consciousness-related information to {{Disorders of consciousness}}, and then rename this template {{Symptoms and signs related to perception, emotion and behaviour}} for consistency with other templates in this set (see alternate proposal at this date) Tom (LT) (talk) 02:52, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Merge per nom. Rename if desired. --Izno (talk) 13:57, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strongly oppose They don't seem similar. Amousey (they/them pronouns) (talk) 23:43, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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    • @Amousey thanks for commenting, fair enough. What about a move of the "Alteration of consciousness" section on the 'Cognition, perception, emotional state...' template to "Disorders of consciousness"? --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:10, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure it needs merging with anything. - Amousey (they/them pronouns) (talk) 10:03, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That is not a strong argument against merging. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 06:20, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Query How would a merge help the reader to navigate between articles of interest and relevance? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pbsouthwood (talkcontribs) 10:27, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Pbsouthwood It would place all the links relating to Disorders of Consiousness in one template, making them easier to navigate between (currently they are split half and half). --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:51, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Support as that would clearly further the purposes of having navboxes, provided that the merged navbox is well designed. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 06:20, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:2020–21 Cypriot First Division Regular Season table edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:42, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

template not needed after league table moved to 2020–21 Cypriot First Division Boothy m (talk) 20:32, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Е edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:42, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unused template with confusing title (Cyrillic Ye). 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 19:52, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 00:18, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete This is supposed to be for Euler's number, e, but it is not really doing that. Techie3 (talk) 15:56, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Episode table/top and Template:Episode table/bottom edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Any extant uses should be replaced with the related parameter in {{Episode table}} to ensure minimal disruption. Primefac (talk) 15:56, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

No need for these templates, as {{Episode table}} uses |episodes= for this exact purpose. If WP:PEIS is an issue, then {{Episode table}} and {{Episode list}} can be converted to directly-invoked modules via an edit similar to that seen here. -- /Alex/21 09:09, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep Even when directly invoking the module, nesting dozens of episode list templates (that in turn often have have nested citation templates) results in a much larger WP:PEIS than using the top and bottom templates. Invoking the modules directly should only be a last resort, as the notation is intimidating to editors and has compatibility issues with VisualEditor. --Ahecht (TALK
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    Ahecht, is there a reason why, instead of creating new templates, you did not just use the |dontclose= parameter, as detailed in the template's documentation? See the examples listed at User:Alex 21/sandbox; the latter two examples provide exactly the same functionality. -- /Alex/21 15:29, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I originally had them at {{Episode table top}} and {{Episode table bottom}} in line with templates like {{navboxes top}}, {{collapse top}}, {{Archive top}}, and {{Hidden archive top}}. I honestly don't remember why I moved it to be a sub-template instead of a completely separate one. --Ahecht (TALK
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    That's nice, but it doesn't answer my question: why, instead of creating new templates (location being irrelevant), did you not just use the |dontclose= parameter, as detailed in the template's documentation? -- /Alex/21 16:06, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Ahecht, your answer would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. -- /Alex/21 04:39, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Ahecht, taking a look at the pages that use these templates, I came across this edit. This table isn't transcluded anywhere. How does this concern or relate to WP:PEIS? Are there other non-transcluded tables you've made these changes to? Have you had a change to look at the examples in my sandbox yet? -- /Alex/21 03:40, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Ahecht. Delete per nom and Alex 21. TheTVExpert (talk) 14:44, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    TheTVExpert, can you also give a reason as to why separate templates should exist for a purpose that's already satisfied by the parameter stated above? -- /Alex/21 15:34, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Alex 21: forgot this parameter existed. Changed my !vote above. TheTVExpert (talk) 15:49, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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  • Delete - I recall some tension re this matter at AN/ANI a few weeks ago? Two comments. First, looks like |dontclose=y does do this exact thing, hence making these templates redundant, and the top/close approach shouldn't be recommended/encouraged anyway. Second, whatever is going on at Doctor Who – The Companion Chronicles seems messy. Modules shouldn't really be directly invoked in an article like that, and it isn't friendly syntax, but I think that issue would be addressed by the dontclose approach as suggested by Alex, equally as much as by two new templates? Not to mention the bottom is calling a module to return </table>? Anyway, overall, support deletion. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 14:02, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:La Red programming edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:42, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is WP:NOTTVGUIDE and this template is exactly this. These are not original programming created for the network, nor even programs produced by them and aired elsewhere, but a list of programs that aired at a certain unknown date (seeing as content-wise it was edited ~4 years ago). Gonnym (talk) 08:52, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Line 1, Chennai Metro edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Techie3 (talk) 05:39, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Unused and superceded by Template:Phase I, Chennai Metro - Timbaaa -> ping me 02:20, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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