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Italian football champions edit
This article is based on three existing featured lists, namely Danish football champions, Swedish football champions and English football champions and my intention is to promote this to Featured List status. To that end I'd appreciate any comments that would help prepare the article for candidacy. I've made a concerted effort to make sure club names are consistent (although naturally some have changed over time) and hopefully my summary of the history of the Championship is succinct enough without going overboard. Thanks for your time. The Rambling Man 13:29, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
- A top piece of solo work. Yet more kudos to TRM. --Dweller 13:43, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
Comments edit
Numbered for ease of response by TRM.
- I'd like to see some explanation of the name change from "Italian Football Championship" to "Serie A". --Dweller 19:38, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
- Me too. Even the Serie A page skips over this. I'm trying to find a reasonable explanation somewhere... The Rambling Man 16:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
- Added explanation that I found in a rather splendid book called Calcio - the story of Italian football. Hope it's enough to satisfy your needs! The Rambling Man 15:36, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
- There seems to have been a ‘psuedo-scudetto’ in 1916 which might be mentioned. It’s covered in it:Coppa Federale di calcio 1916. Winners:A.C. Milan. Similarly the 1944 Campionato dell’Alta Italia, which was competed for by teams to the north of the Gothic Line. Winners: Spezia Calcio 1906. —Ian Spackman 16:46, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for noting those two that I missed! Yeah, I mentioned the 1944 tournament in the text already but I've broken into the Second World War section in the table to mention it in context now along with a reference to explain about the "decorative" nature of the title. As for the 1916 tournament, my Italian sucks, as does Altavista's babelfish so I'm not 100% sure what the circumstances of this title really are. I've added the tournament into the table of winners along with Juve who came second, but beyond that I need guidance from somebody who speaks with Italian tongue! The Rambling Man 17:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
- I’m afraid my Italian too isn’t strong enough to read and summarize the article in the time I have free just now. But this is how it is summarized on the page it:Associazione Calcio Milan.
- Nel 1916 il Milan vince la Coppa Federale, che in quell'anno sostituisce in qualche modo il campionato, sospeso a causa della Prima Guerra Mondiale. Non si tratta, tuttavia, di un trofeo ufficialmente riconosciuto dalla FIGC come titolo italiano.
- In 1916 Milan won the Coppa Federale, which in that year acted as a substitute in some manner for the championship, which had been suspended on account of the First World War. However it is not treated as an official trophy or recognized by FIGC as an Italian title.
- Beyond that it’s worth saying that the competition was limited to northern teams—although that did then include all the best clubs—; and that all the top-flight clubs, with the notable exception of Pro Vercelli, did take part. Hope that helps! —Ian Spackman 06:38, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
- I’m afraid my Italian too isn’t strong enough to read and summarize the article in the time I have free just now. But this is how it is summarized on the page it:Associazione Calcio Milan.
- Details added now, hopefully enough to satisfy! The Rambling Man 09:20, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for noting those two that I missed! Yeah, I mentioned the 1944 tournament in the text already but I've broken into the Second World War section in the table to mention it in context now along with a reference to explain about the "decorative" nature of the title. As for the 1916 tournament, my Italian sucks, as does Altavista's babelfish so I'm not 100% sure what the circumstances of this title really are. I've added the tournament into the table of winners along with Juve who came second, but beyond that I need guidance from somebody who speaks with Italian tongue! The Rambling Man 17:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)