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June 17Edit

Michael Francis MiddletonEdit

Ref 51 and 52 appear to be identical - shouldn't this be fixed? Please assist thanks115.70.23.77 (talk) 01:13, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

I think you mean 52 and 53 (someone may have added a new reference before them, which will have changed all the numbers thereafter: 51 is described as "Multiple sources" and contains eight different sources as a bullet-pointed list – unusual, but not as far as I know deprecated).
52 and 53 are nearly but not quite identical. They both refer to the same publication, but 51 specifies page 9 of it (just before the ISBN), while 52 specifies page 16. This is good practice, as the reader who wants to consult the source is told exactly where in a multiple-page work each cited fact is corroborated. I believe there is a more concise way of doing this, but only a code purist would worry about it. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 02:59, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
That would be Template:Rp (reference page). Clarityfiend (talk) 03:12, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Extended user not automatically confirmedEdit

Dear wikipedists, although my user has accumulated over 500 edits (including deleted ones) and has been active on Wikipedia for more than 30 days (over 6 months), my user was not included in the extended confirmed user group. Why is that? All the best. Gore Voinicescu (talk) 05:26, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@Gore Voinicescu: You gained the extended confirmed flag with this very edit ;-) (See the log). Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:03, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! Gore Voinicescu (talk) 06:28, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Obvious conflict of interestEdit

What does one do in this type of situation? Is it an automatic restoration of the version prior to their editing + a notification on their talk page? Thank you. Abillionradios (talk) 09:23, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Since the changes were almost completely unsourced and its not possible to tell wether they actually are the article subject, I have decided to roll the changes back and leave them a notice on their talkpage. Victor Schmidt (talk) 09:32, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
And yet Soorajtom Wiki has put all the same changes back again.--Gronk Oz (talk) 09:52, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Contradictory sources at Amir Khan (singer)Edit

Yesterday I happened upon the article Amir Khan (singer) and noticed the "Early life and background" section and the infobox made contradictory claims about the subject's birthplace. Since both were referenced, I added both in both places, put a {{contradictory}} tag on the page, and started a talk page section. I've since found three more sources that all name a third birthplace (but there are two places of that name and I don't know which one is meant) and seem more reliable to me than the previous ones. What's the right way to proceed now? Should I just remove the claims supported by those first two sources (and maybe the sources themselves) and only mention the third option? Should I name all three places in the article? Should I ask somewhere else? – Rummskartoffel 12:00, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@Rummskartoffel: From a sourcing perspective, you should mention all three locations and all five sources. From an editorial and readability perspective, this is getting very messy, so I think you should mention your "best" source in the infobox, with a footnote, and do the same in the text but with "(sources vary)" and the same footnote, and then explain this mess inside the footnote, with all five references. Since you are unsure of which of the two places is the correct one, don't link to it from infobox or text, but link to both of them in your footnote. This is not a good solution, but I think it's the least-bad solution unless your research comes up with a definitive answer. -Arch dude (talk) 14:59, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
After further consideration, I think I'll leave out the first possibility, because that claim's source looks like it may be self-published, and just mention the other two. I'll keep digging until I can hopefully be certain where he was actually born. Thank you for your advice! – Rummskartoffel 16:58, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Boomer QuestionEdit

How do I revert edits on mobile? Panini!🥪 12:17, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Panini! You switch to the full version in a browser on your device and do it that way. :) The app and mobile versions do not have full functionality. 331dot (talk) 12:20, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

List of albumsEdit

Can you fix the category i made December 2021 in albums please. (talk) 13:46, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

  Done. You entered a line break in the table, which the software interpreted as a separate cell. Getting rid of that fixed things. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:37, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Google search snippet for wikipedia item on Jodha BaiEdit

When i search for Jodha Bai on google, the snippet below the google search contains this comment that is an obscure part of the target article(a redirect to Mariam-uz-Zamani) "Paridhi Sharma played the role of Jodha Bai in historical drama series Jodha Akbar which ran from 2013 to 2015. Delnaaz Irani portrayed Mariam-uz-Zamani in ..."

When i search for Mariam-uz-Zamani, I see a far more meaningful result "Mariam-uz-Zamani was a wife of the third Mughal emperor, Akbar. In subsequent centuries, she has been referred to with several other names, including Hira ..."

Is this something in google, or something in wikipedia(maybe on the redirect page) displaying this? I think the latter(or some other part of the lead) is clearly the better one to show

Assassin (talk) 16:28, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@Assassinx.x: Sounds like part of the Google Knowledge Graph, which pulls info from many sources, often in a confusing way. RudolfRed (talk) 16:34, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
@RudolfRed: Thanks for the comment(trying wiki text for first time, so apologise if there are issues). It does not seem to be on the Knowledge Graph. It seems to show under the google result for the wikipedia item(where usually a short portion from the original website is shown).Assassin (talk) 16:40, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Interestingly, the knowledge graph box on the right does seem to show a better result than the one underneath the search resultAssassin (talk) 16:41, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
If it's a snippet, assume a little of column A and a little of column B. The snippet is going to be a passage from the Wikipedia page, but the passage is likely going to be one that Google considers to be the most relevant to the query. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 16:45, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for that. Will try raise it with google. No particular interest in the subject, but the current result looks like promotion of a particular actress rather than providing something useful Assassin (talk) 17:06, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

LaTeX quick edit from visual editorEdit

In the visual editor, when I wish to write formulae in LaTeX the fastest way I know is to type "<math", which opens an editor that hides most of the page. On the contrary, clicking on existing TeX formula within an article brings up a "Quick Edit" box that doesn't hide the page and shows how the formula will appeared rendered inline. Is there a shortcut to bring up the quick edit box rapidly? Failing that, is there another way to enter TeX quickly short of editing source? Krb19 (talk) 17:18, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@Krb19: I'd never heard of LaTeX before reading your post, and don't use the visual editor, but there might be some help for you here, or you could ask on the related talk page. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 18:46, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
@Timtempleton: Thanks Tim, I'll try that talk page.Krb19 (talk) 21:18, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Article type?Edit

How can I tell the type of template an article is? ie: This is a country VS this is a person my question is where is that filed(other than obviously reading the description). where is that indicator on the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:11, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia has no concept of an "article type" in the way you are suggesting. Many articles have a WP:short description which says what kind of thing the subject of the article is, and MOS:LAYOUT contains recommendations for how to structure articles on certain kinds of subject, but there is no kind of reliable classification of articles. --ColinFine (talk) 19:26, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Perhaps you are asking about the box of info on the right side of the page. This is called an Infobox, and there are different types of Infoboxes for things like countries, people, etc. RudolfRed (talk) 19:39, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, how do you know the infobox type, and is this (type of infobox) available trough some sort of API? (talk) 19:48, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia has a public API which can export certain things yes, though getting the infobox type is pretty hard. This is because for the software behind Wikipedia, an infobox is just another tempalte that needs to be expanded. If you would need to query this from the API, you will need to fire an API query similar to this, which can give you all templates a given page (or a list of pages) has. You then have to manually sort through the array in query.pages[index].templates after things starting with "Template:Infobox". Keep in mind the API has an ettiquette, you can find it here on the website about the sofware behind Wikipedia. Victor Schmidt (talk) 20:28, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Wikipedia itself is a encyclopedia consisting of articles that are primarily intended to be read by humans. We have a sister project, Wikidata, that is database with relationships between items. Each Wikipedia article has an associated Wikidata item, and each wikidata item may have the "instance of" relationship with one or more other items. The Wikidata API for queries is probably more suitable for your purpose. -Arch dude (talk) 21:03, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
We figure it out by reading the article. Infoboxen are not added by bots. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 22:41, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

report for articles with old tagsEdit

is there a report that can list articles that are tagged for "issues" (sometimes "multiple issues"), that can be sorted by date?

examples of "issues" templates: More citations needed & Disputed

skakEL 22:20, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

@Skakkle: Take a look at WP:BACKLOG. Find the type of issue you are intested in, and you will find it organized by date. For example, for citations, I found Category:Articles_lacking_in-text_citations which has it organized by month back to August 2006. RudolfRed (talk) 23:06, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
so, there isn't a tool somewhere off wikipedia that can just do some range limits and sort by one or two other attributes? (article size, edits per day.) That backlog page seems like a giant hierarchy of categories. and the way categories always sort alphabetically seems really unhelpful for prioritizing. and the norm here for managing all this just seems to be just "keep breaking down into smaller categories". Just hoping for a tool off wikipedia I guess. skakEL 01:18, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
See WP:PetScan. Zoozaz1 talk 01:32, 18 June 2021 (UTC)


When are you Leftists Dirtbags going to cease lying to the American public?

Hello editor with a Canadian IP. Our no personal attack policy may be of interest. Zoozaz1 talk 23:27, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
We can't do a thing about it if you don't tell us what article you are having a problem with. And as much as this might surprise you, not all of Wikipedia's readers are American. JIP | Talk 12:25, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
The exact moment right-wing nutjobs do the same. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:20, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you, very cool! Chess (talk) (please use {{reply to|Chess}} on reply) 21:27, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

June 18Edit

Football box templateEdit

Hi, can the football box collapsible template be considered a table even if it is formatted in a template? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:44, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Steezy raeEdit

Hi my name is Steezy Rae andim just wondering how I can get a wikipedia.

Not a good idea. See WP:AUTO for some guidance. RudolfRed (talk) 01:26, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Policies related to adding artwork imagesEdit

Bharathiyar Artwork

What are the policies and guidelines about adding artwork images/paintings to articles here (not commons)? Special:Diff/1029123465 -- DaxServer (talk) 07:26, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

The other uploads from the same user as well. -- DaxServer (talk) 07:30, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
If you are an artist, and are willing to upload your own work to Wikipedia on a compatible licence, then you are free to do so. Mjroots (talk) 07:56, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification! -- DaxServer (talk) 11:08, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

About awards/accolades received during one's careerEdit

I wanted to know what is the preferred method for mentioning such things in BLPs for CEO's/music producers. On this page there is an existing section for awards the individual has rec'd for his work as a music producer/songwriter. But he's also placed on various Billboard/Forbes/Variety rankings for his achievements as a businessman. While a few of these have been mentioned in the prose of the Career section, there are still quite a few not yet included, so I'd like some advice on the best way to include them.
I asked this 9 days ago on WT:BIOGRAPHY but got no response so trying here. I went ahead+created a "Recognition" section like on the Jeff Bezos article and added a listicle subhead in the interim, but I've seen varying things on other BLPs so I'm still unsure whether that's best or not. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 08:40, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Carlobunnie, Please take a look at Wikipedia:BLP awards, where the appropriate mention of accolades is described. It states: "Dedicated "Awards" sections should be avoided in most cases."
Lately, the "awards industry" has become extremely inflated, as there is apparently money to be made by giving out tons of "awards". Wikipedia is primarily interested notable awards.--Quisqualis (talk) 19:17, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
@Quisqualis: the awards/listicle placements are notable ones (and have been covered by multiple reliable sources), which is why I asked what is the best way to include them. I've seen both dedicated award sections as well as mentions in the prose of "Career" sections hence my needing help. What you linked is someone's opinion, not an actual policy or guideline. If WP as a whole was actually following that, then many BLPs would need award/accolade sections removed from their articles. -- Carlobunnie (talk) 20:56, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Contact details on Wiki pageEdit

Is it possible to have the phone number for a business on a Wiki page?

I'd say no, but if that business has a WP-article, a link to their official website can be added under "External links", and presumably that link will have contact info. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:04, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
It is technically possible, but Wikipedia policies strongly discourage, if not forbid it. However, articles about companies can have a link to the company's own website in the "External links" section, and people can find the phone number from there. JIP | Talk 12:23, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Most company articles use an {{Infobox company}}. You can put the web site in the infobox also. That's where I think the typical reader is likely to look for it. This is also better if there is not already an "external links" section. -Arch dude (talk) 13:46, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Wrong name of article in bibliography of Myanmar snub-nosed monkeyEdit

The 18 bibliography

Roos C, Zinner D, Kubatko LS, Schwarz C, Yang M, Meyer D, Nash SD, Xing J, Batzer MA, Brameier M, Leendertz FH, Ziegler T, Perwitasari-Farajallah D, Nadler T, Walter L, Osterholz M (2011). "A molecular phylogeny of living primates". BMC Evol Biol. 11 (3): 77. doi:10.1186/1471-2148-11-77. PMC 3068967. PMID 21435245.

The name of the article is: Nuclear versus mitochondrial DNA: evidence for hybridization in colobine monkeys

The link is correct!

I've corrected it; thanks for pointing this out. (You could have edited the page directly: "the encyclopaedia anyone can edit"!) Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:15, 18 June 2021 (UTC)


Hi, I just wanted to know. What did I do wrong? My edits were barely offensive. So if you would like tell me what I did wrong. Please tell me. Mr. Vice City (talk) 15:22, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

@Mr. Vice City: While I wouldn't call your edits blatant vandalism, they were not constructive: they didn't cite any reliable sources, and the language used is inappropriate for an encyclopedia. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:46, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Use of pronounEdit

Per WP:Pronouns and WP:MOS, article should be written in NPOV and the writer must be invisible to reader. However, this does not implied to the most important articles, especially scientific topics and explicitly use our, us and we. I saw it in articles Universe, Problematic smartphone use and Human evolution. There should be grammar checking administrator to eliminate this issue. The Supermind (talk) 16:00, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

@The Supermind: All articles are maintained by volunteer editors. If you are interested in the topic of fixing grammar, consider joining the WP:GRAMMAR project to help out. RudolfRed (talk) 16:08, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
The Wikipedia Grammar Police Department is large, but the territory we cover is much larger. P.S. That should be "apply", not "implied". I'll let you off with a warning this time. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:45, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
@The Supermind: Wikipedia is a volunteer project. You can go on the page yourself and edit it so it complies with the policy. The problem is that there's not enough volunteers who are checking grammar so some stuff slips under the radar. Chess (talk) (please use {{reply to|Chess}} on reply) 21:31, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
@Chess: The guidelines in Wikipedia:Writing better articles WP:Pronouns and Wikipedia:Manual of Style#First-person pronouns are paradox stating that the pronouns in mathematical writing "the 'inclusive we' widely used in professional mathematics writing is sometimes used to present and explain examples in articles, although discouraged on Wikipedia." In Manual of style states that "The author's we found in scientific writing (We construct S as follows), though rephrasing to use passive voice may be preferable (S is constructed as follows)." In the WP:Pronouns, it means totally discouraged even if we use first-perspective pronouns in mathematical writing, which routinely discourages in any scientific writing. But it is permissible using pronouns in the latter one using scientific writing. What does mean? The Supermind (talk) 05:10, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
@The Supermind: Let's take the example of Human evolution. Here the sentence was "Genetic evidence has also been used to enhance ... our understanding of ..." and someone has (mistakenly) tried to edit this to "the understanding". The point is this: here, 'our' means 'all humans'. Whoever wrote the sentence is placing themselves in the same category as the reader - a fellow human. They are not speaking in the voice of a lecturer, and 'our' is not the speech of an author writing about their work on evolution, as it might have been in a scientific paper ("Figure 4 shows the major sources of variation revealed by our study of the dimensions of the toe-nails of sloths").
Incidentally, 'our' could have been omitted completely in the example of human evolution, but substituting 'the' doesn't work: it's clunky and inelegant English. 'The' is really only tolerable if you're specifying a particular sort of understanding (e.g. 'the current understanding', 'the political understanding' etc.), and even then it's a bit superfluous.
The usage of 'we' that would have been discouraged is "We use genetic evidence to...", because most of us don't. This would have been the encyclopaedia-editor speaking in the voice of the evolutionary scientist. Hence the difference in maths articles, where the lecturer will write "We prove this by describing a line from A to B", while the encyclopaedia editor might prefer "This can be proven by describing a line from A to B" (if the proof is of sufficient general importance to merit a mention).
Let's face it, pronouns are hard, and not very logical. Even in scientific publication there are enormous arguments, with some people vehemently opposed to any first-person pronouns whatsoever ("a study was carried out", even though clearly the study was carried out by the authors), while others get confused between first-person-singular and first-person-plural issues, happily tolerating "We studied..." but not "I studied..." in papers with a single author (so who were 'we'?). Best stay out of pronouns unless your English is superb and you're prepared to cross swords with the grammar police! Good luck! Elemimele (talk) 17:02, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
@Elemimele: "Genetic evidence has also been employed to resolve the question of whether there was any gene flow between early modern humans and Neanderthals, and to enhance the understanding of the early human migration patterns and splitting dates." An insertion is truly uncontroversial because "the" in the context is more figuratively used to refer as general meaning for human migration and splitting dates, and neutral than our, by comparison, which our here emphasized persuasive argument by reader sense. Regarding readers, the writer inclusively used our as all human beings (including readers), but I unexpectedly inserted article "the" and made much suitable to the sentence. Look the sentence and read intuitively. I'm not seeing the as big deal issue. The Supermind (talk) 19:21, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
@The Supermind: no, you're right, it's not a big deal issue. It's probably one of those things people will argue about for ever. I gave you my opinion because you asked; I think it's important to remember that a competent writer is likely to find it extremely irritating when someone 'corrects' a stylistic wording that they used intentionally and with forethought; and it may not improve the article. For that reason, I personally don't fiddle with someone else's grammar unless it's misleading/ambiguous, or another editor has already marked the article as requiring linguistic improvement. Elemimele (talk) 19:55, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

How to create a biography?Edit

I wanted to create a biography on Wikipedia, about somebody. How do I do that? Please guide me. Mr. Vice City (talk) 16:26, 18 June 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr. Vice City (talkcontribs) 16:25, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

As a newer user I would strongly suggest you create a draft version so that more experienced users can review it and offer guidance before it "goes live." Additional guidance can be found at your first article and biographies of living persons. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:50, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Hello, Mr. Vice City. My personal advice to anybody is not to even try creating a new article until you have spent a few months improving existing articles and learning how Wikipedia works. But when you do want to try, My first article tells you most of what you need. I see you have begun a biography in your sandbox, and that is a perfectly good place to go about it; but you have made the very common mistake of starting in the middle of the project. Writing (even a single word) belongs after you have done the most important part of the project, which is to find independent reliable sources| that contain signifcant coverage of the subject. One reason to do this first is that if you cannot find suitable sources, you know that the subject is not notable in Wikipedia's terms, and there is no point in spending any more time on trying to write about them. Another reason is that you should write from what the sources say, not from what you know. Every single piece of information that you put into the article should come from a reliably published source, and most of them from sources unconnected with the subject.
One final point: when people start editing, and immediately try to create an article about a person (or a company, or a band) it is often the case that the person (or company or band) is one that they have a connection with. If this applies to you, then you should read about editing with a conflict of interest before you start. --ColinFine (talk) 16:52, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

How to fix infobox image sizing?Edit


On the page for Ashraf Ghani, the image in the infobox is cutting off the native language spelling of his name just a little bit. How can I fix that? I tried resizing the image (from 220px to 200px to 150px) and that didn't help. I also tried adding a line break after the native language spelling and that didn't work either.

Additionally, is there anyway to combine multiple languages in the lang function? For example, if I wanted to combine Dari and Pashto, can I do something like lang|ps|prs|احمد ظاهر (not including brackets here so you can see) to indicate that that is the spelling in both languages? Basically I want the final result to look like this

Pashto/Dari: احمد ظاهر

Thanks for the help! WikiEditUsername7 (talk) 16:36, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

I always hate giving this type of answer, but it's possible the Help Desk is not the best place to ask this. WP:VPT may yield better answers. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:48, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Hello, WIkiEditUsername7. I don't see a problem with the image and the name, either on my laptop (Firefox browser) or on my phone (Android Wikipedia app). As for the question about the template: I can't see anything in Template:lang which will support what you want to do, so I suspect you've done it the best way. --ColinFine (talk) 17:02, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
@Beeblebrox: @ColinFine: Thanks for taking a look! So for the image on Ashraf Ghani's page, on mobile it looks fine (both my iPad and iPhone). However, when looking at it on desktop mode on both my laptop (I tried both Firefox and Chrome browsers) and my iPad (Safari browser), the furthest left letter (ي) has the two dots under it being partially cut out by the image. Does that make sense? — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiEditUsername7 (talkcontribs) 17:13, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
I can see the dots below the ya quite clearly above the image on both Firefox and the Android app, WikiEditUsername7. --ColinFine (talk) 17:49, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
{{lang}} wraps the text in HTML like so: <span lang="ps">احمد ظاهر</span>, so screen readers know how to pronounce it. But the lang HTML attribute may only contain one language code or none at all, so your best option is to choose one and put both languages in front like you already did in your question: Pashto/Dari: {{lang|ps|احمد ظاهر}}. – Rummskartoffel 17:24, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
@Rummskartoffel: Thanks!

Keeping images out of previewsEdit

Hi! How do you keep images out of an article preview? Asking for What a Song Can Do (Chapter One)... versacespaceleave a message! 17:29, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

@VersaceSpace: A specific image can be kept out of all previews by having an administrator add it to MediaWiki:Pageimages-denylist, but I'm not seeing a preview article on that article on my end, anyway. Don't know why that is, though, since there is a page image listed for it... – Rummskartoffel 22:04, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Guidelines for citing a podcastEdit

Hello, I'd like to write an article about Ugyhur film. There's very little information about this topic in English, but recently a podcast episode has come out, where a Uyghur director of 20 years is interviewed about the history of Uyghur film. He also taught at a major art/film institute in the Uyghur region. Would it be appropriate to base an article on the podcast? The episode's official website is I will try to find as many corroborating sources as possible. My main question is if podcasts are not reliable a priori, which doesn't seem to be the case. Just wondering there was extra guidance here.

There is a template for citing a podcast: {{Cite podcast}}. You still have to satisfy yourself that the particular podcast you are citing meets the definition of a reliable source; in other words: is it produced independently of the subject? Does it have a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy? ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 20:47, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
I'm not sure that it needs to be vetted too thoroughly if the intent is to quote the director's own words from an interview, if you can confirm it is them speaking that is probably sufficient. Beeblebrox (talk) 20:54, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Editing and replace dead linksEdit

Hi, Good Day, I have a question, that I am using Wikipedia for any problems and reading solutions to my problems. I am also editing Wikipedia pages and try to set spelling mistakes or punctuations. So during the editing when I found a dead link, can I replace that dead link with a relevant live link, which is giving the same information? How many dead links can I replace with relevant live links. Because recently I replace a dead link and got a warning message from wikipida. please guide me so that my Wikipedia account not banned from wikipida. Thank You Chris — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chris Layn (talkcontribs) 19:35, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

@Chris Layn: See WP:LINKROT for how to deal with dead links. Follow the advice you have been given to not replace links with links that are (or appear to be) spam. RudolfRed (talk) 20:03, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
(edit conflict)Chris Layn Generally, if a link used for reference is dead, you should look for an archive version. If you cannot find an archive version, there is good reason to keep many dead links in references. It may be useful to cite an additional source besides the dead one if you can find one that verifies the content. However, when adding sources, please make sure you understand what Wikipedia considers to be a reliable source. Marketing materials such as Best massage chair are not generally considered reliable sources, and besides that, the page you cited from that website did not verify the content that the dead link you were replacing purportedly supported. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 20:06, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

the song of John Barleycorn / only 1 and it is by Traffic'( the 70s prog rock group )Edit

Hello Sir, I do not know whether i am writing on the exact page here.

But for the topic in the Turkish wikipedia

I consistently tried and tried to edit and write that there is only one song and it's Traffic's.

The TR wikipedians now publish wrong info on whom the song belongs to.

They do not heed me.

Could i kindly please direct your attention so that the TR wikipedia readers get the Rightest info.

Thanks ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vectoraldynamics (talkcontribs) 22:10, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Vectoraldynamics We cannot help you with issues on the Turkish Wikipedia. Each language version of Wikipedia is its own project, with their own editors and policies. You will have to address your issue on the Turkish Wikipedia with whatever process they have to do so. 331dot (talk) 22:13, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
@Vectoraldynamics: Here is link to the Turkish Wikipedia Help Desk, where you can ask for help: [1] RudolfRed (talk) 22:58, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Hello, Vectoraldynamics. As 331dot says, we cannot help you in any way about editing on tr-Wikipedia. But if you are saying what you appear to be saying in your question, you are factually wrong. John Barleycorn is a folk song, versions of which have been written down for at least 350 years. Thousands of people have sung it, and many have recorded it. --ColinFine (talk) 23:42, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Hello there @ColinFine ColinFine.( i am in the stage of using the page , i left you a note and now that i have discovered the right way i am writing here, as well.

Thanks for your precious feedback of the song of John Barleycorn ( Must Die ) which is actually a folk song in the Roud index. However, as i know, it was re-arranged by Traffic ( the prog rock group of the 70's ) 's Steve Winwood into this magnificient video - and in the TR wikipedia it is filed under the influence in pop. culture section.

Thanks again for your attention.

@Vectoraldynamics: Please go ask at the Turkish Wikipedia, we cannot help with that. RudolfRed (talk) 02:18, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

June 19Edit

Moving an entry publicEdit

I contributed an article a while back but noticed that it is not yet live. It had been reviewed and edited by a Wikipedia Editor with admin privileges yet it hasn't gone live. Any advice on how I can proceed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thexpenman (talkcontribs)

  Courtesy link: Draft:SBM_Intelligence
@Thexpenman: The draft hasn't been reviewed. The admin only inserted a template for draft categories and did nothing beyond that. You would have to submit it for review before any reviewers take a look at it. To submit the draft for review, add {{subst:submit}} at the top of the page. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:47, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Creating a new article. Without WizardEdit

How long before you can create articles on your own? Ty. --Gulfratz21200 (talk) 10:40, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Gulfratz21200 You must have 10 edits and your account must be four days old to be technically able to create articles yourself, but it is strongly recommended that new users submit drafts for review through Articles for Creation first, until you gain much experience in article creation. Article creation is one of the hardest tasks to perform on Wikipedia, and diving right in without experience and knowledge often leads to disappointment, frustration, anger, and other bad feelings that we don't want you to have. Please also use the new user tutorial. 331dot (talk) 10:49, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Hello, Gulfratz21200. To echo what 331dot said: your question is like "How long after I start learning a language like say Spanish before I start contributing articles to a Spanish magazine?" You could do it almost right away, but you are likely to waste a lot of your own time and effort, and other people's, and get a lot of disappointment and frustration. I recommend spending several months improving existing articles (at first in small ways) while you learn how Wikipedia works. --ColinFine (talk) 13:10, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Moving an entry from Sandbox to public viewEdit

How is an entry moved from the Sandbox to public view? Can someone please give me a link to an explanation? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by FahnbullehV (talkcontribs) 19 June 2021 12:50 (UTC)

@FahnbullehV: See here: Wikipedia:So you made a userspace draft#Ready!. Victor Schmidt (talk) 13:23, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Robert PardoEdit


I am Robert Pardo, algo trading software pioneer, distinguished author (The Evaluation and Optimization of Trading Strategies), consultant and money manager.

There used to be a page about me on Wikipedia. I looked for it today to evaluate what needed to be done to update it. It is no longer there.

What happened to it?


Bob Pardo — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:246:4A00:9770:29ED:89EA:349E:5E5D (talk) 20:18, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

The page Robert_E._Pardo was deleted some time ago. You can also see the reason for the deletion. Ruslik_Zero 20:43, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Having checked, the article was an unreferenced BLP at the time of deletion. Not surprising it was deleted. Mjroots (talk) 13:51, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

problems with pacing an image in an article I createdEdit

I have created an article on for a friend who passed away I am unable to insert his photo. I follow the instructions and I get the message

This action was automatically identified as harmful and was therefore blocked. If you think your action was constructive, please contact an administrator and let them know what you have tried to do. Here is a brief description of the anti-abuse filter rule that detected your action: Cross-wiki upload filter

Please HELP!


Each Wikipedia is a separate project. You will need to ask for help at the French Wikipedia: [2] RudolfRed (talk) 23:04, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Actually, RudolfRed, the problem was in uploading a picture to Commons. Stanmatwin, Commons is a separate project from all the different editions of Wikipedia: you need to ask at Commons:Commons:Help desk. --ColinFine (talk) 23:32, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

June 20Edit

Liked articleEdit

When I look up something on the internet and I look it up on the Wikipedia page and I save it on my phone’s home screen and I call it a new name, and then later I tap on it to read the article, it will say something else. It says article of the day. Why does it not stay as the item that I have called it?

That is because the article of the day changes every day. You should tap on the link that brings you to the full article and bookmark it there. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:19, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
If you want to read one that you've missed, notice that there is a link labelled "Archive" at the bottom of the "From today's featured article" section which will take you to a list of past (and some upcoming) entries. For this month, the archive can be found at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 2021. — Bilorv (talk) 10:56, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Copying user page in wikimediaEdit

I can't find Wikimedia's help desk, so I ask a question about user page in wikimedia. How to copy user page in wikimedia? (I'm not good at English, sorry.) --A.672k(t) 09:19, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Are you looking for mw:Help:Extension:GlobalUserPage? --David Biddulph (talk) 09:55, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Yes, and it works. Thanks for your help. --A.672k(t) 15:09, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Jan henrik DabrowskiEdit

Is there any way to find out if General Jan Henrik Dabrowski who served in the Italian Legion in Haiti in 1803 left any children there? Would the Darbouze family have any relationship with him? Curious.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:701:8201:8620:1D97:F790:4B1D:E6ED (talk) 12:59, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello IP,
You can ask that question at WP:REFERENCE DESK. That platform deals with such stuff only. Lightbluerain (Talk | contribs) 16:25, 20 June 2021 (UTC)


How do I attach pictures to a page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waliyullah Tunde (talkcontribs)

@Waliyullah Tunde: You're going to want to see H:IMAGE, but make sure that they comply with the image use policy first. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.)Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:41, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

What is the difference between the date and the access date?Edit

What is the difference between the date and the access date is the access date the one where you added it that day of?

I'm asking because i added the new switchfoot record and it the date was wrong and i don't know what i did wrong?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:92c0:3b20:cc07:c8c1:e379:5c60 (talkcontribs) 20 June 2021 14:32 (UTC)

|date= is the date when the source was published, so for example the date a newspaper released. |access-date= is the date when you accessed the source. There are a number of date formats supported, you can find all supported variants here. Victor Schmidt (talk) 14:55, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

How do you fix it where it doesn't say the access date was ignored?

Fixed it for you at List of 2021 albums, you used "access date" when it should be "access-date". MilborneOne (talk) 15:05, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Milborne!

How can I upload this patent on Commons?Edit

Hello! I've posted the same question on the Teahouse, receiving no reply, so I'm going to try here as well (should have done so from the beginning, probably).

I am planning to write an article on a Cold War tank destroyer project called TAA. The vehicle was never produced and only existed in drawings. Thus, the only way to graphically represent it in an article would be using its drawings.

There are no official blueprints of it on the internet; instead, its patent, that is based on them, does exist. It can be found here (some better quality versions also exist on other websites). Is there a way to upload the patent on Wikimedia Commons? What license should be used? Many thanks, and please ping if you reply. Kind regards, Lupishor (talk) 15:18, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Lupishor. I am not sure of the answer, but nobody else has answered, so I'll do my best. First, I can't find a definitive statement of whether or not patents are regarded as published, for the purposes of Wikipedia; but the existence of Template:cite patent suggests that they are, and you can cite them (though of course a patent will always be a primary source, and an article needs secondary sources to establish notability and for the bulk of its content). But I think you are wanting to put a diagram from the patent for illustration : the question then is, what is the copyright status of (a diagram in) a Romanian patent? If you can demonstrate that it's public domain, (or a compatible licence, but that seems unlikly) then you can use it; alternatively, you might try to argue that your use can meet all the requirements in the WP:NFCC, and upload it as non-free material. (Note that in that case you may not upload it until the article you are going to use it in has been accepted as an article). If it is not public domain, then you should not link to the imgur copy, as that will be a copyright violation. I suggest you ask at Copyright questions. --ColinFine (talk) 16:34, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
I answered at the Teahouse. Please don't ask in two places, Lupishor, as it wastes people's time. As I already said, your main issue will be notability of this vehicle, not the copyright status of the patent. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:05, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you, Colin and Mike! And I apologize. Lupishor (talk) 17:49, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Redirecting ModuleEdit

Hello 👋 i have a question 🙋 it is about Redirecting Modules, i want to know how can i Redirect A specific Module to another Related Module. is there anyway to do that? thanks —— 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 16:15, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Modules cannot be redirected. The lazy way is to require ('Module:...'). The better way is to {{#invoke:...}} where necessary.
Trappist the monk (talk) 17:18, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

How to report oppressive adminsEdit

Hi, in Italy we have one or two admins who are fans of Chico Forti so they delete any edits that doesn't suit them. Even if the edit has sources and it's true and correct, this admin uses pretextes and excuses to delete all edits. How can we edit the Chico Forti page with sources and truth, despite this biased admin? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iusde (talkcontribs) 18:39, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Iusde, I assume you mean that this is happening at Italian WP. You have to deal with it there with the processes that are available there. I have no idea what they are, but perhaps Aiuto:Sportello informazioni is a place to start. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:49, 20 June 2021 (UTC)