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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 23:31, 18 March 2017 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of ships of the Royal Yugoslav Navy edit

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Nominator(s): Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:36, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This list covers all of the warships and large auxiliaries operated by the Royal Yugoslav Navy between its establishment immediately after World War I until its disbandment in the latter stages of World War II. It recently went through Milhist A-Class review and was significantly improved, with explanatory prose and ship characteristics added to the tables. This is my first naval FLC, my other two were orders of battle. All constructive criticism gratefully received. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:36, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments This is an excellent professional-grade summary. I have only the following comments:

  • "Large auxiliary vessels such as submarine tenders and tankers are included, but hulks, tugs and smaller auxiliary craft are not." - is it possible to say that the list includes only commissioned ships, or did the Royal Yugoslav Navy not work this way? (I agree with this division though, which is common in listings of naval vessels - small craft and the like generally belong in lists of auxiliaries)
  • "All four were sunk at Salonika in October 1944" - were they scuttled by the Germans (from memory, this is when they were evacuating Greece), or sunk by Allied forces? Nick-D (talk) 03:18, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support My comments are now addressed. Great work with this article: it really is a model for others. Nick-D (talk) 05:47, 5 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Nick, it got improved a great deal during ACR. Regards, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:56, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support - I reviewed the list at the ACR, and my concerns were addressed there. Great work. Parsecboy (talk) 16:06, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 22:07, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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  • I would kill that TOC, or reduce to top level headings as right now, with the brief lead, there's a vast amount of white space at the top of the article, very unappealing.
    • Moved to TOC level 2.
  • Claims in the lead, such as "The KJRM was formed in 1920, but it was not until March 1921 that a number of former Austro-Hungarian vessels were transferred...", if not expanded upon in the list (which they're not, are they?) should be inline referenced in the lead.
    • Most are cited in the body, but added a citation for that sentence.
  • " Royal Navy Flower-class corvette HMS Mallow" avoid WP:SEAOFBLUE.
    • Yeah, but they are all relevant.
  • T5 became Ter, but because of the row spans, this is difficult to follow.
    • I get that in a couple of cases, but I think reducing repetition is more important in a list of this type.
  • Kajmakčalan became TČ 392, but that's not explicitly described anywhere. For non-experts like me, this is a source of possible confusion, like a type (similar applies to the TA48 earlier, and several other of these renamed ships). This may be milhist convention for these lists, but with the formatting and lack of explicit notes, it's subject to confusion.
    • Where the text doesn't specify, I've specified that they were renamed.
  • What does "deleting" a boat mean?
    • Generally deleting from the Navy List of commissioned ships. Linked.
  • I don't know why you need the "Royal Yugoslav Navy" cat when you have a "Ships of the Royal Yugoslav Navy" category...
    • Sure, removed.

The Rambling Man (talk) 12:02, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Support I reviewed this at ACR, but I have another concern.

Source review passed, promoting. --PresN 02:36, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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